I have the following setup: traktor, 2 d2’s and ableton running on the soundcard of my A&H DB4.
That works great, although i can’t route traktor thru ableton’(due to window based maschine) but there is really no need for it because the effects in the DB4 are great. ableton and the push i use now for adding drums, basslines etc etc
I was thinking of switching to the play differently Model 1 mixer, to achieve a similar setup i would like to route traktor thru ableton to have effects other then the traktor effects and use ableton to ad drums etc etc
what kind of usb soundcard would i need with sufficient in en outs to do this and how would you do this ?
You need to persevere with JACK, mate. There are LOADS of guides, including Youtube videos, of how to do exactly this.
It’s a really elegant solution.
Buying more audio interfaces, and physically routing the outs of Traktor to the Ins of Ableton is gonna be ugly as hell, and you’ll run into even more problems than you already have.
I have viewed almost any video there is, still no luck. tried everything also the admin thing, no luck it jack server wont start and gives no feedback to what might be the problem… but if i would go for the model 1 i will need a external interface, as i would imagine there is some internal rerouting possible with for example rme or motu .. i have really no clue because i never had one, so the question remains, what kind of audio interface would suit my needs of being able to run traktor and ableton.
This also to get a idea about the cost of going for such a setup if its within my reach or not
so bassicly i would like to buy a model 1 and a suitable external interface
Your missing the point, there is no need for using jack audio right now, i have the db4 and no need for any more external effects…
if i would go for the model 1 i would loose the effects that come with the db4 and its soundcard, the DB4 has a internal soundcard…
The model 1 has NO soundcard so i will need to buy a external one, i really like the way the model 1 is setup, i have a possiblity to test and check it out myself in about 2 weeks. So before that i would like to know witch external soundcard would suit my needs, as i have no experience in that area i thought it might be a good idea to ask
Help me out here. Are you DJ’ing with Ableton Live, or Traktor? Or both? And how are you doing that right now?
What channels on your mixer are used, and for what? if Ableton Lives outputs are to the USB outs on the mixer, where are your Traktor outs coming from? Are you mixing internally in Traktor, and using a single output (from what audio interface?) to a single line in on the DB4?
I know you’ll run into trouble using a single audio interface in 2 applications at the same time. I’m just trying to get an idea of what you are currently doing, and what you want to be able to do.
i am djing in traktor, using the db4 as my soundcard, so mixing externally.
I am using 4 channels on the db4, the normal channels 1 to 8 for decks a,b,c,d and share channel 1/2 for ableton or maschine or both running synced to traktor for adding drum sounds or playing on the fly, traktor nor ableton seem to have a problem using the db4 soundcard at the same time, this works just fine.Hell even when i use traktor, maschine and ableton(1 pc)on the db4 sound card it works just fine at a very low latency.
My current setup is just working great apart from not been able to use jack audio, but not a deal breaker for me.
As i am creating more of a specific style for myself i sometimes run out of channels, running 4 loops or 3 and ableton i feel the need for more channels and i really like the sound sculpting possibilities on the model 1, the db4 has a similar mode called filter mode and i use that a lot (most of the time). i will know for sure when i have a go on the model 1 in about 1,5 week .
Changing to that mixer means loosing the fx section of the db4, the looper function (using this also together with the K2) so i have to figure out a way to get effects back in, i really hate the rmx effects box way to aggressive compared to the db4 effects which i love because their just right for Techno and none destructive
As the model 1 is completely analogue, i will need an external audio interface…i was hoping to be able to route traktor thru ableton for the effects with this interface internally, as i don’t know or ever had a external interface i don’ t know if this is possible.
"At the center of his setup is Native Instruments’ Traktor, which Hawtin controls with NI’s X1s and the new D2s. He uses these to trigger songs and loops which become the foundation of his set. From there, he’s got Ableton running in the background hooked up to a Push controller. He’s got his own custom drum rack loaded up in Ableton which he can then launch and loop samples from via the Push. This allows him to create new drum sequences atop whatever tracks are playing inside Traktor. Most notably of all, he intentionally does not sync the two programs, and instead opts to align the drum sequences from Ableton himself so as to add desired swing or move them perfectly in time.
On top of all this, he’s even got a foot pedal for FX and a Roland TR-8 — not to mention his favorite Xone:92 mixer. The cumulative effect of this extensive live setup is the flexibility for Hawtin to do whatever he desires at any moment, whether it be constructing a track on the fly, or layering three records together to create an entirely new composition."
here he is using traktor controlled by 2 xone k2, model 1 mixer with antelope audio Orion 32 interface and push…all running on 1 laptop…
its seems its possible to connect the audio interface to the laptop either thru thunderbolt or usb and make use of the aux sends and return via the dsub cables…so that is good…just have to look for a cheaper inteface with enough channels out and in and dsub connections…
Good luck trying to find a cheaper alternative to that interface. I’m not sure there’s going to be many options but if you do find something please let me know.
Under OSX can two pieces of software still use the same interface at the same time? Or do you think he is still using something like soundflower to get ableton & traktor to share the same interface?
I do run OSX but have never tried running two apps together like this. If I can get the cash together for a xone 92 I have been thinking about adding a maschine to my set up and would need some way of routing the audio (was planning to buy another interface)
Well the problem is not to find a cheaper interface, only thing is finding 1 with the dsub(tascam25) connection ,
Motu has the ao serie but you will need to buy 1 for the inputs and 1 for outputs , they all need to be analogue. setting you back for 2300 euro…but using a cheaper 1(you only need 2 or 4 ins ) for the in is always possible. the dsub is not mandatory,you can use jacks or whatever to connect, for the xone 92 its even useless…only the model 1 can benefit from the dsub..so it will be a heavy investment going down that road…2500 UK pounds before taxes for the model 1 and 2200 euro for a interface …putting you well behind the 5000 euro mark. well i hope to get a closer look and maybe even some playtime on the model 1 sometimes soon..
I dont know if this is possible under osx, i am on a windows based maschine and run traktor, maschine and ableton on the db4 soundcard at the same time …no problems what soever
hours to get it working..just gave up because i use the db4 for effects
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well i hope to get a closer look and maybe even some playtime on the model 1 sometimes soon..