2 week wait for Rane Empath Rotary. Buy something else?

2 week wait for Rane Empath Rotary. Buy something else?

So i’ve sold my djm800 and was all set on getting a Rane Empath Rotary:

And despite the decks.co.uk website saying it ships within 3 days, when i phone em they say it’ll be 2 weeks as they need to ship from US.

Now i can wait two weeks, I got an s2 that’ll tide me over, but i’ve sort of got cold feet. Like dunno if i’m maybe buying old tech… though that’s also kind of what i like about it.

I was thinking alternatives… even xone 92 rotary but i just hear a lot of greif about a+h gear - especially China made etc. I’ve used em at clubs and do like them but dunno.

Any other mixers i should be thinking about?

I like the Empath cause of the send / return on each channel. Gonna want add hardware fx… either a filter or possibly a rmx-1000

Any thoughts?

Wait or get something else?

No hands on experience with the Empath but I know it’s build rock solid & sounds dito.
Personally I’m not a fan of 3 channel mixers (after owning one) and prefer the 2 and 4 channel layout.

I do own a 92r and I can tell you that build quality is great (on my unit & units I used).

It’s a great mixer but not so great with EFX or RMX hardware, the integrated filter (HP, LP & BP) is the best you will find.

I am a former 92R owner and it was pretty awesome. Built like a tank- I have no experience with china xones since everything I’ve owned has been UK made. You can get a cheap UK 92R for like $750 on ebay.

Nothing dated about the Empath- if it’s what you want it’s what you want and you should wait since you don’t want to regret not buying it. I just like full meters on each channel though and love the xone filters. The 92 can run external FX just fine it’s just a different type of routing and more like a studio mixer with return channels- which might be a little weird if you’re not used to it.

Always the Rane MP 2016. That mixer is a rock.

I’ve recently fallen back in love with my Empath.

Still kind of wish I got a rotary, a 92 is my only other choice.
If you’re getting a 92 or empath with an RMX1000 on top why not just get a DJM900?

Want a rotary really and DJM900 doesn’t come in rotary, otherwise i might well have done. Thinking Xone 92R now, though I found a good deal on a 2nd hand 92 line fader.

As much as i like the feel of rotary i do also like a line fader.

I’m a little stumped.

The Xone 92r does not work well with the RMX1000 - EFX1000 - EFX 500 - …
Maybe a DJM800 with rotary kit could be an option and you could switch back to line faders if rotary is not your thing.

Not a fan of the DJM-series but for your needs it seems the best option.

I just sold my DJM 800 :slight_smile:

The RMX1000 is not a deal breaker. I just fancied a change and had my heart set on the Empath Rotary, which would have worked very well with the external fx… but now faced with the decision to pull the trigger, partly cause it’s a 2 week wait on the Empath i’m considering options.

Why do you think the xone92 wont work well with the RMX?

I have to say from my giging and being digital dj. The first mixer I used/ giged with was a rane empath. my favorite mixer of all time except the xone. Just love the filters. Alot of guys swear by the 92. Not sure if its rotary or not.

But yeah solid mixer. What the big difference between rotary and line fader anyways

Well rotary knobs just have a nice old skool feel for mixing… Cant find any brilliant examples but this is sort of the vibe

I’d think by the time you truly decide what you want, a weeks time will have passed. In turn you’ll only have to wait 1 more week, maybe decide then? Patience is a virtue

I actually think someone on this very forum mounted a rotary kit like this in the 900, apparently the kit works both for 900 and 800.

Did not seem too hard to accomplish.

Modding the 900 is pretty hardcore. This dude hacked it. He wasn’t “meant” to and involves serious soldering and machine cutz

http://forums.pioneerdj.com/entries/20932446-modded-djm900-added-the-djm800-rotary-kit-to-it-pic-inside

Maybe I should have modded my DJM800 but to be honest I fancied a change. I actually think the DJM800 sounded crisp and good with digital files but not very warm when playing vinyl.

Thought Id go back to analogue mixer styleee

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Well rotary knobs just have a nice old skool feel for mixing… Cant find any brilliant examples but this is sort of the vibe

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Great post !
How about some example (classic) rotary mixer:

Bozak

Urei (soundcraft)

Rane

A&H (Xone 92r)

That A&H in the above video is a Xone V6 and my personal wet dream…(but will never own one)

Ps. the s&r (Xone 92) is not build the same way like the cdj800-900-2000 (not quality wise) so you only real option is to place it on the main (this sucks, you wont like it).

^
the turntables might as well be on a shelf 5 feet up. My back would be killing me at the end of the night.

+1 for the Xone V6… Rotary FTW!!

That Xone V6 is a work of art. I’d be concerned I’d forget to mix as I stood there being mesmerized by the VU meters jumping. Speaking of meters, what’s the component above the V6 with the giant meters on it? WANT. Even though I have no clue what it does.

^^ big VU-meters (monitor output) = Dorrough http://www.dorrough.com/40.html

That’s my kind of gizmo’s ($900 a pair…and they say pioneer is expensive :slight_smile: )
The V6 is (IMHO) the most epic rotary (and discontinued), they made a ‘cheaper’ (3K) alternative: Xone S6

I went rotary after seeing little louis vega mixing on of the best sets I witnessed IRL with a rotary (MP 2016 ) and never looked back

What VU-meter is that??? I WANT!

euh, see post above yours…link and all ?

Yo, late back on this post. Nice pics of classic rotaries

This badboy tickles my fancy too

@JohnnyDrama You got pics of your rane rotary set up?

I went and had another look at the 92 today… the headphone cue things a bit annoying. Cant fully pan between master and cue in headphones.

I do have to mix on headphones when the missus is in bed… thats a bit of a deal breaker. Never noticed that when using playing out cause then i just cue the track alone and use monitors.

Hmmm might be back to the empath and the two week wait.