like what though? lol
I’m thinking 1200’s NI 4 and for a mixer I really have no clue…
and the needles: are any needles compatible with scratch pro?
thanks for the quick reply btw
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like what though? lol
I’m thinking 1200’s NI 4 and for a mixer I really have no clue…
and the needles: are any needles compatible with scratch pro?
thanks for the quick reply btw
[/quote] yeah any needles will do. shure m44-7s are good and not too expensive.
Something to play out with legit style that you plan on moving around, or something that will really be nice in your own pad?
You plan on sticking with Traktor I imagine, so upgrading to Scratch will be some $$ as well. I’m not sure how much off the top of my head.
You can usually find 1200 MK2’s around for about $300 (USD) a pop used if you spend some time and look around, and you’ll need a decent mixer as well. You can also start thinking about a CDJ route if you wanted to as well.
Figure out how much you have to spend on each thing, because it all depends on /what/ you want. Big speakers = big money. Nice decks = decent $$.
You can’t have your cake and eat it all, gotta pace yourself even with a larger budget.
Here’s my suggestion if you want the DVS Route:
~$499 - Traktor Scratch Pro w/ NI Audio 8 DJ
~$600 - Two Technics MK2 tables, used - Industry Standard
That’s sitting on about ~$1100 before buying a mixer and speakers.
One thing that might work best is sitting and waiting on Craigslist and seeing if someone is dumping a setup for cheap money, if they honestly just aren’t into it.
But DVS systems aren’t cheap, because it’s basically your normal tables/mixer setup and adding another audio interface into the equation.
+1 on the SL-DZ series being absolute crap. I owned a pair when they first came out, and the scratch quality is horrible, producing an extremely digitized sounding output, and the SD card requires a proprietary format Panasonic dongle to use.
building my system bit by bit sounds like a good idea. im just so impatient sometimes! lol
ok so what I’m thinking is..
since I already have traktor, sound card, and Numark Stealth
I’m gonna use the $2k to buy a good sound system only- for gigs. Then when i get more money I’ll upgrade up to the 1200s. Since I’ve only been playing small gigs I dont NEED new decks.. So I was thinking something like the “EV 4000 boom pack” on 123dj.com PA System Packages
thanks for all the help. glad i’m not gonna buy the dz1200s since i got input from you guys- actual people, not reviewers from 2007! ha
The 1200s I got were not on craigslist. Deal from a friend.
The EV boompack looks decent. ITs a bit pricy, considering the EP4000 is only a 300-400 dollar amp, and there is no active crossover/Eq/Limiting available. 15s in tops are not really beneficial, if you have subs, cause 15s have laser tight midrange dispersion, meaning they will blow peoples heads off if they are in the path of the speaker, but once you get off access, nothing.
If you decide to go with that pack heres some advice:
1.Never split the subs, unless its by more than 50 feet, you will have phase cancellations.
Try to keep the subs by walls or corners, will help with output and phase.
I think you could get a better setup for the money, but that will work if you want something quick.
bang for the buck, I’ve heard lots of good things about the b52 matrix system. Its not going to perform as well as the one you posted, but it is only 700 dollars, which is a lot less than 2 grand.
The best thing you can do is just start to read up. If there is a guitar center in the area, go in, bring your ipod loaded with some quality test tracks, and try out some gear. Talk to the sales rep (but be wary, cause they are really just trying to sell stuff to you). Ask their opinion, leave the store, look up the info online, specially frequency response curves and the like, and then you can sit back and make your decision.
Are you looking to play house parties, or bigger stuff (like, size of a school gym big)?
This post made me look into speakers, which personally I know nothing about. But I figure it’s good for future reference, so couldn’t hurt to look around.
This is the entry level set I see most widely recommended:
B-52 Matrix-1000 V2 700W Active 3-Piece Speaker System
Now if you’re feeling a bit on the wild side, http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/ looks really damned interesting. The site sells plans so you can build your own speakers for a fraction of what it would cost to buy them new. Or you can contact a local “crafter” to build them for you, and still end up saving money.
Speakers are a crazy crazy world… that’s what I’ve learned so far.
hahaha. BigC. I just finished building 2 tuba 30s, and the glue is setting on the Otop 12s. Overall, idk if i would recomend building them to someone who has no idea about speakers. The build wasnt that hard, but I’m a fairly decent carpenter (still have all my fingers). For a newbie, it would probably coast about 550 to build 2 tubas (cost me 400, but I didnt go with the best driver… although I want it now). You then need an amp (got the crown xti 2000 for 430). Then you are going to need tops (I already had some, but I’m gutting them and making omnitops).
Thats gonna run you about 1700p robably… after cables and other stuff.
Will it be an awesome system. hell yes. But its a pretty work intensive process, and the tubas are BIG. If you dont need the war volume (ie small party), they can be a pain to transport in cars and stuff. If you have the space, and the time to build… I dont think they can be beat to be honest.
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and yes. The tubas are sick. They make your eyes rattle. They will suck the air right out of your lungs.
Mostly just like house parties and big yards and what not..
Honest truth, my dad’s givin me the money so HE’s gonna be the one shellin out the money this time so I wouldn’t mind a suggestion closer to $2K… as bad as that sounds. haha
Anyone that knows a bit of acoustics will tell you the contrary. Having a sub near a wall is the fastest way to muddy bass and phase interference problems.
In an ideal situation your listening space would have no walls to avoid constructive / destructive interferences.
Personally if I had 1000 bucks for a small/medium live PA I’d go with a pair of JBL eon 315, 2 tripods, and 2 fly cases.
Enough power to rock the party up to a some dozen people or more (even a hundred if it’s a big space laid back party)
Active, no need to carry amps
Enough bass with a 15’’ woofer, no need of subs.
Rock solid: you don’t have to be delicate with them, plus you have to accept they will take one hit or another at some point. That is the fate of live rigs.
I’ve done countless parties with the eon series and never failed me.
