Apple's patent suggests DJ beat matching

Apple’s patent suggests DJ beat matching

As the title states, Apple patent application points to DJ-like beat matching, pairs iTunes with fist pumps

Here’s the full article:

http://m.engadget.com/default/article.do?artUrl=http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/apple-patent-application-points-to-dj-like-beat-matching-itunes/&category=classic&postPage=1

What do u guys think, future?

until itunes can chop, blend, scratch, have spectacular music choice, use loops, mix with several decks, use sample decks, or quite frankly do anything creative, I don’t think we have anything to be concerned about :stuck_out_tongue:

Traktor has a hard enough time finding the BPMs on some songs, and Apple’s software is going to do better then Pro DJ software? I’m an Apple fan, but unless there is going to be beatgridding in iTunes (yea, right) then I think it is just a really long shot as to how well iTunes would mix.

You’d be surprised what large companies with extremely talented programmers and boatloads of cash can do that might be outside of their core competencies. Apple has like 40 billion or so sitting in cash, I’m sure they can find a few guys who know how to create some top notch detection algorithms. Just sayin.

A fair point you make, though I’d still be surprised if it turns out that great. A software or app that beatmatches or analyzes better then Traktor would seem to definitely be a competitor with NI and Rane.

I know there is more to software then analyzing tracks, but it would seem if they got that right they could easily build from there especially with the $ they have - like u wrote.

Apple trying to do everything. Jump on the DJ bandwagon - cue the fanboys.
I will stick to Traktor.

I think there might be trouble if Apple gets a patent on this… Software patents are usually ridiculously ambigious, and Apple are not known for being “careful” with their patents.

Spotify just came out with crossfade. I can see Apple wanting to do something with iTunes DJ that picks songs close to the same BPM and plays them for you.

I wait with baited breath for the day that songs can be auto warped/beat-gridded.

Warping/beat-gridding is time consuming, and takes all of teh fun out of DJ’ing.

And beat matching is EASY once you know how. :sunglasses:

+1 - this is yet another stupid patent by apple trying to patent software thats already been around for aaaages

Btw looks like the patent was filed in 2010

urgh, apple literally has nothing better to do with all its money than patent the god damn world! Could someone please just tell them to STFU already!

and if iTunes gets any more bloated its gonna be completely unusable on windows machines.

Sorry for the bitching, but I do kinda hate where apple are going and what they are becoming.

It’ll be a cool, breezy day in hell before this happens successfully. Maybe they should work on making ‘shuffle’ work better first.

Shuffle is working…

perhaps it will only work with music that’s been purchased on itunes? so part of the deal with labels is that when they upload their music, they have to embed accurate bpm info into the aac files?

that’s the only way I could see this working.

edit: makes me think of quite a nice idea though… if Apple takes this the above to the logical conclusion: embedding music structure information into the id tags. This would mean that iTunes (or whatever) would understand where a drop is about to occur, when a chorus is happening, when an outro is about to happen, etc. Then iTunes could make logical decisions about which parts should sound good when mixed together (so that it doesn’t try and mix two unmixable sections).

Right… Like I said, I think it should work better.

I’ve had all kinds of instances where, for example, two songs from the same album were played one after the other, or one a couple songs after the other.. I’ve had instances where two versions of the same song are played one after the other.. I’ve got entire albums that I forgot I had because they never get played in shuffle..

Ahh fuck man…

This is the same shit that you find in WinAmp…which auto fades to the next track.

It seems they will now beat match them in this fashion…but will it BLEND?

So if you have a track that starts off with just beats and it is played after a track that ends with just beats…they will probably be able to get that in sync and do a 16 beat fade or something.

I doubt it will be clever enough to do anything wild!

Its Auto Pilot…

Too complicated for most Skrillex fans

DJay should be a paid bolt-on available for Spotify Pro users.

To be honest, I’d give it serious consideration for my mobile gigs especially if it had controller integration like the iPad app.

what if it was kind of like beatunes where it analysis the songs and puts attaches “song color” then it picks a song with similar bpm and similar color.

Don’t you think that eventually the bpm would get way out of wack
BPM
126-128
128-130
130-132
132-140

Eventually you have a dubstep song playing at 128 bpm

Something tells me they will do something with algoriddim’s DJay for mac. Which I tried and the key lock on that program is horrible. really choppy