Hello everybody, sorry for my english i’m doing the best that i can, i’m new in this forum, nice site and forum keep rockin all ! so my point is…
I’m in love with eletronic music, especialy classic oldschool house and disco, and i wanna start a discussion here about beatgrid on traktor pro 2, what yours experience about beatgrid this kind of music in traktor pro 2 ? sounds of bands and projects like Chic, Sister Sledge, Skyy, Instand Funk, Orlando Johnson, Change, musics of Salsoul Records, (some examples), and anothers old school flavours like Chicago House and Italodisco, some old school hip-hop to, im talkin about of purchased musics .WAV files in stores like Juno and Beatport, i’m worried , I’m worried because some people say that kind of music it’s very difcult to beatgrided and some is impossible, and i have a huge collection of this sounds, I have not had the opportunity to make full potentials of the software, I think about buying it but would like to know the experiences from someone on this subject of Beatgrid this kind of music That I love so much, thanks to everybody !
Hey man, i think you dont understand me, i dont found many reports about experiences of djs who play a lot of oldschool disco and house on traktor pro 2 (not traktor scratch), but i think they exist, a lot of djs who like to play this styles and stoped play with vinyl for some reasons dont stop to play this type of music because the dificult or sometimes impossible beatgrid, i wanna know and share this experiences about this, how difficult is ? if it’s really impossible to beatgrid some musics like this.
Live bands are nearly impossible to beatgrid in Traktor unless the drummer is spot on. You can warp them in Ableton first, but you risk losing some of the feel.
Here’s a nice write up Ean did on make custom edits of these tracks.
Hmm thanks man, but check this out, when you talkin about a live band song, you mean a song recorded in a live show, or you are talkin about just a band song recorded in studio, not eletronic music, like the studio version of Chic - Good Times, for example, is it impossible to beatgrid this track ?
And a classic disco music what is not eletronical totally, but is not totally a acustic band to, the beatgrid works ?
as photojojo said… first warp in ableton… beat gridding in traktor is pretty limitted. i guess you could beat grid it so that the part of the song u want is gridded fairly ok - but anything not driven by “an electronic drummer” is going to drift all the time pretty much.
It depends on the track tbqh.
Sometimes you can set a loose grid where the track will fluctuate and either be a little ahead or behind the grid. These aren’t too difficult to mix as you can just bend the pitch a little to sync the tracks.
Another option is to set a grid at the start of the track where you’ll be starting your transition and set another grid marker towards the end of the track where you want to transition again, if the start and finish BPM are about the same, and not worrying about the grid in the middle.
Some of Traktor’s FX are linked to the beat grid tho so they won’t sound quite right if the grid isn’t right.
I tend to use the tap button, as and when I need it. The grid is usually close enough for a few bars, which is long enough for me to work with. Having buttons mapped to be able to move and change the grid on the fly can be handy, tbh tho I just tap in the beat again if it fluctuates.
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There ain’t no secret to Beatgridding the classics, man. Either you warp them in Ableton, Beatgrid the parts you be mixin’, or you beatmatch and nudge like the jive turkeys did back in the day. Ya dig?
But whit this solution of just beatgrid the loop i want to mix, i can’t use efx, on the parts of the track that i dont beatgrided because the bpm variation in this parts right ??
hey man, i test some old disco tracks not beatgrided like Double Exposure-My Love Is Free on the software traktor demo, and appear to me that effefcts work normally, like flangers, filters, and some echos, the problem will arise if i beatgrid only one part of the track (like the part i want to mix), and when i use the efects on the part not beatgrided they will work totally out of tempo ? is this ?
Even if you make it so only a part of the track is correctly gridded, the beatgrid is still there throughout the song.
The effects will match the grid, so it depends how far out of sync the grid is when you apply the effect.
hmmm im se, so its not a rule, tracks with tempo variation effects work horrible right ? with a little tempo variations, i can use effects because it’s not too noticiable this little variation in a effect right ?
Im understand now, thanks alot, well i think i will buy traktor, and how i dont have money to use s4, i will with 2 kontrol x1, and for mixing my disco stuff i will do that thing, loop the mix points e beatgrid and then, i think it will be nice
