Love the hardware cue buttons despite having the (multi)touch display.
Loop/loop move encoder!
2(3?) USB slots!
2 deck output (that “layer” button?) for a single unit
not so much love for the simple toggle switch for jogwheel stiffness
What i really don’t get though is why they spread that hideous render (seen in the first post in this topic) In real life this thing actually looks really good IMO.
And every manufacturer creating their own new ecosystem isn’t something I’m really enthusiastic about either to be honest.
If Engine is good and can work with other software cue points this is very interesting unit. Maybe I don’t like the green color scheme but the rest of the design is good.
How about the same manufacturer creating a new ecosystem for each product series? Supposedly the Engine Prime software isn’t compatible with the old Engine software for the MCX8000/SC2900/SC3900, which in turn isn’t compatible with the S3700 and HS5500.
With a few exceptions, all Pioneer devices since 2009 support the same Rekordbox library.
All true. What’s worse, there are now three different Engine versions:
1.0.1 (yes, that’s ONE bugfix/update in 4 years!) for iOS that used for browsing with SC2900/3900 players but cannot be used with MCX8000 (despite it having a LAN port)
1.5.2 that’s used for library managment, file analsys and export to USB sticks for SC2900/3900/MCX8000
Engine Prime that’s compatible only with SC5000 and has no export mode for older hardware whatsoever. Probably no iOS version will be released because Prime hardware have sufficient screens.
S3700 and HS5500 players also deserve a mention because they use Denon Music Manager software (win only!) & for which none of the software above has the ability to export files to USB/create a database.
I’ll bet it’s all because different outsourced teams developed code for Denon but still have rights on it so it cannot be integrated under one software.
alright so from what i see, these appeal more to those who are use to controllers with all the new pads and pad features that the controllers have. but (at least in my local scene) no one uses these features anyways. kids will cry that they have to play on cdjs so they bring a controller instead. If you are going to bring the functionality, why dont you use it? my $.2
Check out video Mojaxx did with the unit, he shows how it look when you load a usb stick with non-engine analyzed tracks. Takes about 15-20sec for the player to show full waveform, key, beatgrid,…pretty impresive.
The interesting part is how they can produce what is arguably a faaaar superior machine in terms of hardware quality for hundreds less than Pioneer charge. Whether it’s a success or not is irrelevant to this point. Pioneer charge entirely too much for their gear! Perhaps if this gear does do well, it will force Pioneer’s hand to produce better quality gear to match their ridiculously over inflated price tags.
A pair of these players could be DEADLY, especially with 2 layers going on each deck. You can tell from the marketing video content they are using very tech house records, and I think that is going to be a large market. 2 Players will yield you 4 decks of mixing, nice!