I kissed a Behringer…
…and I liked it!
Behringers have the reputation if being made out of cardboard held together with Elastoplasts. However just picked up the DDM4000 and I love it.
As fully featured as the Pioneer DJM-800, MIDI assignable, fairly tankish (for a Behr) and only 300 notes!
Well chuffed.
Yhea, this mixer looks great for the price, but does it have a USB port? If not, you need two midi cables (and a sound card with midi ports) to use its midi function, right?
Pretty much.
I use a USB to midi cable with mine. Has USB one side for PC and other side has MIDI in and out sockets. Think it was about £5 on eBay/Amazon and worked faultlessly!
Welcome to the DDM4K family!
We’re cool.
I’ve had mine for a few months now; it’s a lot of mixer for the price but unfortunately that’s about all I can say in its favor. I’ll be upgrading as soon as I decide how much of my life savings I want to throw at a mixer.
This mixer would be a lot better if they updated the firmware; mine is from 2007 and it is weak. “Save settings” doesn’t actually save any important settings. So every time I turn the mixer on we’re talking about 20 or so button clicks to get my settings right – crossfader alone is five clicks. Effects are all reset to flanger on both sides going out to Master channel - that’s another batch of clicks just to get them set to channels 2 and 3. All this stuff could be easily saved in user settings but it’s not.
Hopefully someone will tell me that I’m wrong and there is new firmware that addresses this?
On the upside, you can save your EQ frequency settings, which is really cool. You can use user settings to make the mixer sound like a pioneer mixer or an A+H with a few clicks, and the sound quality is better than you’d expect for the price.
The lack of USB port is a problem but not a dealbreaker; more serious is the overall cheap feel of all the buttons, knobs and faders. If I was going to keep this I’d upgrade its crossfader in a second – apparently it’s easy enough to put an innofader in there, which would make a big difference. The knob stems are all opposite what I normally see, so none of the knob caps that I’ve bought for other gear works on this; no upgrading to nice rubberized knobs. The purple lights above the EQ kills are just stupidly blinding. Duct tape to the rescue! And the placement of the headphone jack is really annoying; it’s always in the way even with an L-plug.
I really wanted to like this mixer, and I’m still really glad there’s something with all these features and passable sound quality in this price range. If price is the determining factor, this is the best deal around – you might get lucky and find a used Ecler Nuo 4 or Mackie d4 for a hundred dollars more, but new there’s not much in the price range that can touch it. But if you can afford more I’d recommend looking at other products.
You know the answer to that question and it’s $2899.00
It’s pretty cool but will get old in the long run with its build quality, as mentioned above.
I’m lucky wrt. blinding lights though - mine has dimmer, green leds instead of the infamous blinding purple lasers atop the EQ kills, so that never bothered me.
Which reminds me, as I posted in another thread, I’m upgrading to a Xone 42 which has finally shipped today, so I’ll be able to start working on a bigass post where I’ll try to compare what can be.
Another reason to love it: the MIDI clock.
Traktor is rubbish at sending MIDI clock to Maschine.
Solution: Use the DDM4000s. Just had a bash with running Maschine & Traktor slaved to the DDM4000. 2 track decks + 1 sample deck + 1 Maschine live input into Traktor, through Traktor’s FX, into the DDM4000 to mix.
Stable tempo, just changing by the odd hundredths of a second rather than 5 seconds.
Wicked fun.
That is cool to hear, good thinking.
As far as it getting old…
I like mine more today, and can use it better than the day I bought it, and that was over two years ago now.
I just bought one on ebay. The listing said the FX screen fades in and out after 15 minutes of it being on, but I hope I can somehow fix that. Still waiting for it, but I’m thinking it’s not going to be too bad. Paid $150 with shipping.
:eek:
Good deal if you can resurrect the screen!
is that using the DDM’s autodetection to set the clock, or manually setting the bpm? cos i can imagine things going crazy if it read it wrong, sent traktor the wrong bpm which then readjusted the speed, changing the bpm, being read by the ddm…a kind of midi clock feedback loop.
Hook up MIDI cables from DDM4000 to soundcard/MIDI input
Run a cable from an output on your soundcard to an input on your soundcard (soundcard must be multi-client capable on Windows, I have an audio 10)
In Traktor, change your input routings for decks 3 & 4 (sample decks) to that input
In Traktor, create a generic MIDI device with input from your soundcard/MIDI input
In Traktor, go to the Master clock section and click ‘Ext’
In Maschine, go into MIDI routings and change the MIDI input port from your soundcard/MIDI input to ‘Yes’
In Maschine go into the ‘File’ menu and click ‘Sync to External clock’
In Traktor, change the deck you want to use for Maschine (you can switch whenever you like) to ‘Live Input’.
Click the MIDI clock start button on your DDM
PROFIT
hehehe you know me all too well! I’m still on the fence though when there are some very capable mixers at less than half that. I have one eye on the Mackie d4pro and another on the Ecler Evo 5, both TSP certified… (and a third eye on the Denon 1700!) But damn that DB4 is sweet!
The problem with the DB4 is that it’s to new to really know what it’s capable of and to expensive for most to figure it out.
Question:
If you have four tracks playing, all with gains set to peak at 0 in the monitor, and you play them all at the same time, does the master output boost?
I don’t do 4 decks too much anymore on mine but it does add up.
edit : just confirmed it with a quick test. you need to tweak levels and/or eq which makes sense to me