[idiot post] Sync Traktor + Maschine with midi cable
Dear all,
Never thought I’d sink as deep as this. But I’m all out of ideas. Searched the forum, searched youtube, googled. I try to sync my traktor to my maschine, through my XONE:4D with a midi cable. Did all the things all tut’s are telling me to, but maschine is midi-deaf or there’s no midi going through my cable.
Is there a way to troubleshoot this? A way of seeing wether the clock signal is actually sent.
Even better, anybody out there running the same setup?
Are you just trying to sync Traktor and Maschine? This should all be done via SW…
Do you have Traktor sending out midi clock?
Is the play button clicked in the master clock?
Do you have the option in Maschine to receive External midi clock?
I have wo pc’s One running Maschine, one running traktor.
Traktor is sending the clock. All settings are done as instructed. The 4D’s internal Midi clock is switched off. Maschine is set to recieve external midi. I’ve tried to sync it to the 4D’s midi signal, but nothing happens.
Midi cable is in the 4D’s DIN midi out, and the maschine controller mid in.
All tut’s mention making a generic midi device, but I assume I don’t need to make a second one as the 4D is allready my midi device in traktor.
The 4D user manual states that the midi out replicated all midi that is sent through USB.
your 4d should show up as a midi in in the maschine midi inputs section of its settings
if not then its probably a driver thing
it could be that you don’t have midi in enabled in maschine, it may show but you still have to click on it and enable it
then check is clock send enabled in traktor and the play/send clock on
then check the maschine option ‘sync to midi clock’ is selected
if still no then it may be time to check with a midi monitor and read up on the 4d and the way in which it sends its own clock
all that being said midi clock drift suuuuuucks when trying to sync with traktor in windows, better off just dialling it in and using nudge controls for the maschine, aannnd given it doesn’t have them use it as a VST in live and use lives.
you can map lives transport controls to another controller and nudge with that or… if you like switching back and forth just map them in the midi mode
Why 2 pc’s? I use a 1.7 centrino for traktor, which works just fine, but is not powerfull enough to run both. The second laptop is a core duo 2,33 ghz and just manages maschine if I don’t add two instances of massive. So its a processor thing.
The traktor laptop is connected to the 4D, the maschine laptop sends spdiff to the 4D. The 4D and the maschine controller are connected through midi cable. In Maschine I see no midi in or out devices. I expected the controller to show as a midi device…
How do i enable midi in themaschine sofware? i cliched “sync to external midi”
If this does not work i may try to sync through ethernet.
Maschine doesn’t receive clock data from a device, it receives clock data from a raw MIDI output. If you have Maschine’s built in DIN MIDI port set as the input port, and “sync to external” turned on, the sequencer should snap to the clock signal, and should be passively receiving that clock signal as the 4D/Traktor sends it. The issue is between Traktor and the 4D.
“The device” meaning the maschine contrller itself. It does not show as a midi input device in the maschine software. It has the DIN plug connected for midi receiving fron the midi out of the 4D.
How do I set up maschine to have the din input plug as the midi input? There is nothing in the manuals about this.
there should be a list of midi in’s in the maschine routing settings, one of them should be maschine midi in, another for instance could be a midi keyboard or the xone4d
using the cable should be fine, the cable comes out of xone and into the maschine right?
three things need to be happening:
xone4d->DIN cable
the xone should be sending midi clock signal somehow, maybe it does it all the time or maybe there is some kind of transport control on the xone itself, if you are not sure if this is happening I suggest to use a midi monitor to listen to see if something is being sent
2)DIN cable->maschine midi in
the maschine midi inputs settings (file-audio and midi settings-midi-inputs) should have ‘maschine mk2 in’ to status=on
3)slave maschine to the midi clock signal
file-sync to external clock=ticked
if ‘maschine mk2 in’ is not showing as a device then maybe it is a driver issue, once maschine is properly installed it should show up as long as you are plugged in via usb
[QUOTE]In Maschine I see no midi in or out devices. I expected the controller to show as a midi device…
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Mu hunch was right. There is NO midi device either in or out listed there. I’ll try to reinstall the drivers. (oh I hope this is NOT a vista problem I know I should get a new OS, but I always end up mixing instead of reinstalling my pc…)
Took me a christmass holiday and a few stupid mistakes, but it works!
-Ordered my original (lost) German piece of shit Vista install disks (I am Dutch. They accidentally delivered the laptop with german OS and keyboard the day before they went bankrupt)
-Ordered the windows 8 upgrade
-Ordered a SSD
-Put in the install disks to see what install options it gave to see if I needed to backup or if I could just install on C:-> formatted harddisk unasked! lost all.
-Got the 32 bit one
-Found out win8 won’t upgrade to 64 bit if the original install wasn’t
-Found out I still have an IDE HDD. Had to sell the SSD.
Installed and wired all.
Can’t explain how extatic I was when I saw that midi out device showing up in Maschine!
Had some idiotic bhaviour before finding out how to permanently disable the 4D clock.
And now it works.
Issue to solve: all is transmitting on CH16 midi. Need to find out if the Machine can be set to a different channel. Else I need to rebuild my midi map for a different channel…
My processor load is literally several factors lower. I gues 1/3rd of the Vista load. Awesome!
Solves the Midi channel 16 issue. It was dirt easy. Just select another channel for the maschine in the preferences
EDIT: There was a piece moaning about how to get an s/pdiff on my laptop. The answere was staring me in the face. I just need to heatup the soldering iron and get the s/pdiff out from the texas instruments 2704 chip I have lying aroun in my diy interface.
Well, here I am again. Figured as long as this thread is there, I’d just go on rambling about the whole syncing issue.
I can get Maschine to sync to the other laptop with Traktor, but it seems that the phase is not ok. Is there a way to reliably sync the phase of the two?
Second, I know Windows is not andling the midi clock with high priority. Is there a way to improve that? Any ASIO settings to be done?
