Is it me or...

[fullenglishpint]

@mostapha

Only by people who don’t know what that word means. They’re the same people that think that input and output stages have anything to do with whether the mixer is analog or digital and that the 2000 is somehow “both” because it has both outputs.

Some of the sh*t I see on this forum makes me want to go back to vinyl.

In answer to one of the earlier questions and/or the OP…why would you buy a DJM2000 and CDJ2000s when a $900 S4 can do the same?

Because it can’t.

It can’t play without a computer, for one thing. And while that doesn’t matter too much to people on DJTT…it does matter in the real world. Laptop DJs are still in the minority…controller-DJs are an even smaller minority…and I’ve never talked to anyone IRL who knew what DJTT was.

This forum has a lot of good information, but it does not reflect reality.

Now, the DJM-2000 is a complete waste of money and a bit of a piece of crap compared to a lot of other mixers. But…the CDJ-2000 is kind of impressive. No other CDJ can do everything it can, and I think they’re worth the money if you have it. The new DJM-900 is a good mixer…it’s just overpriced.

There are a lot that are very very decent, and if you’ve ever used a good mixer…you’ll know how the S4 falls just a bit short in the feel department compared to a lot of them.

It’s hands-down ahead of 95% of the controller market, but it feels a bit toyish compared to even mediocre mixers from a good maker.

As much as I like Traktor, I’m on it mainly because of budget. There are a few capabilities I actually like, but the more I go out and listen to other DJs and stay off the internet, the more I realize that they don’t matter in real life and that just about everything I want to do, I can do with 3 CDJ-2000s and a mixer. Sample decks might make that claim harder, and I’m not convinced that anything below the 2000 is worth paying for (I really like album art…and doing that with anything else would get really expensive).

So, yeah…the DJM-2000 looks like an “I have too much money” sign, but people complaining that 2000s look like someone spent too much money just look jealous that they couldn’t.

Agree with you on the DJM-2000 (overpriced, oversized, unnecessary flashy extras) and the CDJ-2000, it’s a great media player and if I could afford a pair I’d jump at the chance.

My opinion is that while the DJM-900 + 2 CDJ-2000s setup is great, it’s more than most people can afford and an S4 is a brilliant piece of kit for the money.

[Rukks]

I finally got to try out a pair of CDJ-2000s and the DJM-2000 when I went out of town a few weekends ago.

The knobs on the DJM-2000 felt more like a toy than my s4, which is disappointing because thats the one downfall I feel about my s4 (Its not durable enough).

I was just expecting a rock when I saw pioneer because they always talk about industry standard and blah blah but to be honest I would have to be more careful if I picked up a DJM 2000 and CDJs.

The cdj-350 platter felt like garbage too btw, a worse click than the s4.

[JesC]

i use the cdj-800 and djm-700 and i simply love it, its way cheaper that the higher end series but you are still getting quality gear. If I could afford a CDJ-2000 and DJM-2000 i would rather use that money and get a SMART car (edit) or a BMW Mini Cooper like Karlos Santos!!

[Coldfuzion]

I got to check out and “use” two CDJs 800s at the club i’ll be playing at next week and man it was so different. Honestly if I could pick up a pair and 1200s for cheap I would. After seeing a lot of the DJs out there not having to look at a computer screen to DJ it seems like a lot of fun too. However the part where you have to bring everything in either a USB format or CDs / browse on the screen of the CDJs seems a bit painful for me.

Dream Setup:
DJM2000
CDJ2000 x 2
1200s Grand Master Edition
+
My current setup .

[fullenglishpint]

@JesC

a BMW Mini Cooper like Karlos Santos!!

omg… you did not just say that…

BMW had NOTHING to do with building Karlos’ mini cooper! That’s old skool original baby!

[CaptainMidnight]

That Rane 2016 is a beast.

[JesC]

@fullenglishpint

omg… you did not just say that…

BMW had NOTHING to do with building Karlos’ mini cooper! That’s old skool original baby!

yeah i just went there…im sure he’s not gonna see this. But if he does…nothing a couple of pints wouldnt fix. Oh and I know how he feels…i drive a jeep and i dont like those fools that call the Toyota FJ’s jeeps!

[tekki]

@JesC

… i would rather use that money and get a SMART car (edit) or a BMW Mini Cooper like Karlos Santos!!

I will probably have to slap ya silly for that last remark… (In Karlos’ absence)

[fullenglishpint]

Some original mini cooper love to counteract the blasphemy…

[Jester]

Pioneer … Apple … Nike … All that coin to pay for a small label.

[mostapha]

Except it’s not true with Apple’s OS or Pioneer’s CDJs.

Insult fail.

[fullenglishpint]

Pioneer … Apple … Nike … All that coin to pay for a small label.

SHINYYYY
end of.

[tombruton69]

It is true with both. Pioneer get away with it cuz they are superior to the other cdjs out there. IOS is a neche market product thats why hackers dont go after it plain and simple.