platinum notes & mixed in key?

platinum notes & mixed in key?

I was just wondering if people on this forum use these softwares?

not having a very musical background would they benifit me or any other users with little musical knowledge? & Are they worth $90 (mixed in key site)?
Do they emhance the mixing experiance or make it more complicated?
Any other software out there do the same thing for less $?

Please dont beat me if this subject has been done before i did search :roll_eyes:

I’m a PN and MiK user. most people seem to use RE, but it’s just too complicated for me to get what i want out of it. Anywho

PN has been AMAZINGLY useful in “normalizing” (it’s not normalization, but a slightly cooler concept of dynamic equalization) my hodge podge of records now sound like a collection. I think it’s worth the 90 bucks for JUST the adjust to -13db alone. But to adjust the dynamics and fix clipped peaks as well?! awesome The key adjust is useful, but really not essential.

MiK…i think it comes down to preferance. I was willing to pay for software that was simple and I could guarantee would “just work”

I didn’t need or want another piece of software I had to fight past a learning curve. MiKs simple interface did that for me. RE is more powerful though for sure.

As far as which one is more accurate? no one can say as both current algorithms are totally evolved from the last analysis that was done back in '06. So just pick which is ur fave.

Hi RSDJ, i may be having massive brain-block/moment of insanity, but what is RE? I can’t work out what you mean by it.

Cheers,

Rj

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rapid evolution

Cheers :smiley:

I love PN, but it takes forever to fix all my tracks, I still have about 5k to go. But its worth how the track sounds at the end, its very clean and crisp.

I use MIK, find it very useful for picking out harmonic mixes.
I don’t mind normalizing the odd vinyl rip or web download but I don’t fancy having a program go through my library and modify the dynamics of my tracks, so I don’t use Platinum Notes.

Youcan get (almost) everything that MIK/PN offers for free. All you can’t get is the clipping removed. You’ll need 3 pieces of software:

Rapis Evolution : Will calculate Key and BPM, and organise your tracks
MP3GAIN : Will adjust all of your .mp3 files to the same level (normalise)
WAVGAIN : Will adjust all of your .wav files (as above)

All of 'em are FREE!

word, Ive been using MIK for awhile now and the benefits from harmonic mixing are great, it makes your mixes a lot smoother and gives better transition between tracks i would have never experimented with together previous to using this prog, i think it also adds a lot more structure and depth to a set as well.

I’ve used mp3gain before.

PN is far more sophisticated than what mp3gain does. mp3 gain simply adds a gain tag in the id3 notes.

Sorry, for me that’s just not good enough.

So I spent the 5 weeks it took me to analyze my 50k+ tracks through PN and they sound…literally amazing. <3

Just a note, I got PN for one feature only though. clipped peak rounding. With so many people mixing hot, this was a HUGE selling point for me. It really makes a HUGE difference to round out those clipped peaks. Especially on a large system. Not to mention adjusting the volume of all the tracks to the same? SWEET! my gain knobs are growing dust!

+1 with Monika about fixing the clips on the mp3’s

PN - works amazing with older tracks but even with new tracks, it works.
MIK - Gets it pretty good in the mark, so when you transfer your songs into traktor pro, you do a lot less beatgrids

PN creates new files, so you still have the original…

I use PN and love the results.. having started collecting music for DJ only a few months ago i didn’t have so many for it to process in one go, I found that Traktor got confused with the new files at first though and the grid markers were up to half a beat off.. not an issue to fix with only 80 or so tracks tbh.

PN and then MIK are the first things that happen to any new track now, i have a pretty streamlined workflow for getting my tracks in the desired formats etc.. now (location, naming, processing, gridding etc..)

I use both of the softwares and agree with a lot that has been said here.

Basicly my work flow goes: Download the tracks to one folder, put them through platinum notes which saves the new files to other folder, run the new files through mixed in key which adds the key tag, after the files are done I grab mp3tag and use it’s scripts to automatically rename the files + add key info to song and so on.

It looks like a lot to do but it’s really quite simple once you get the routine to it. After that you have to work the grids in traktor but that you would have to do anyways.

This is because platinum notes adds a small bit of silence to the start of the audio file. So run your files through pn BEFORE gridding to save some time. :slight_smile: The amount of silence seems to be a bit random so it can’t be automated by moving every grid for example forward a certain amount.

But I can recommend the programs. I have to second Monika with the fact that -13db is really nice feature. It sets the average volume to around -12,85 - -13,15. Rest in PN2 feels just like a plus. :smiley: The enchanced dynamics require better sound system to be heard well, but it pays the price at that point.

I’m currently only running MIK and I really wouldn’t want to miss it! Makes my mixes a lot more consistent and helps finding interesting combinations of tracks.

I haven’t played with PN yet as I use Traktor’s autogain but from what I’ve read above and considering that the autogain is not always getting it right, I’ll have a closer look at PN as well. I wonder if there’s a way to save the detected BPM from MIK in a way that TPro doesn’t overwrite it when the track is added to music collection?

Yeah, i could see the track waveform had changed but the grids not - only had to take a time hit on the 80 or so tracks i had up to then, now my workflow is essentially the same as yours…

The volume equalisiation is a god-send IMO and far better than Traktor’s own autogain… Traktor seems to just use a peak level, which isn’t of much use to be honest

Yeah an RMS meter gives alot better depicion of pervieced loudness.

many thanks for all the great constructive replies esp RSDJm :slight_smile:

I tried rapid evolution but it did’nt seem to work so I think I will go ahead & purchase PN & MiK ($98 both - mixedinkey.com) I really like the idea of normalising all my tracks to the same level to give my gain knobs a rest.

ahh here comes hours & hours of track sorting … its about time really :roll_eyes:

I recently purchased MIK and I love the simple interface and fantastic results. RE was too complicated for what I was looking for.

I am considering getting PN, but I have a concern…

So then the tags written to the track previously will be preserved, but beatgrids will be off? Or will they be removed?

Has anyone had issues using it in os x?

i love mixed in key, its a great tool. well worth the money. i use the os x version of both MIK and PN.

i just bought platinum notes a few days ago, so far, im not impressed. its extremely slow in processing you tracks, its taken almost 2 days so far and its only about 1/3 done with my collection (990 tracks total, its done just under 200 in about 30 hours). but the sound quality of the tracks that it fixes is pretty good. it makes flat sounding tracks a lot fatter sounding and it makes tracks that are way over produced and over leveled sound much much cleaner and better.