Playing 140 Jungle Style in the Club Discuss...(Future Jungle, Jungle Tekno)

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Playing 140 Jungle Style in the Club Discuss…(Future Jungle, Jungle Tekno)

(MODS this is a discussion about playing a certain style)

As the title states… (those three names pretty much describe one genre.)

So 140 Jungle used to be kind of popular, but it went away for a while.
Being the dj that I am and trying to stay on the cutting edge of music, I played an all 140 jungle set on Saturday.
I will post up the mix soon, but I wanted to say that everyone totally LOVED the music!!! (everyone was QUITE “elevated”)

We were in a smaller room off the main room with couches, it probably held like 30 people but I would say we had like at least 5000w in subs and another 4000 in tops. So yeah waaayyyy overpowered, but bass heavy so still good.

Playing very dark, atmospheric jungle tracks. With an emphasis on building like an “imaginary world” with my mix.
Tying everything together with matching keys.

Are you playing any 140 Jungle??? If so tell me the results!

Interested in hearing more of this style? Take a Listen…

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My ears just pricked up when I saw the words ‘Future Jungle’! :slight_smile: I sometimes play Future Jungle as well as 140 Breaks/Rave Breaks and do a show on a radio station that plays a lot of FJ, including a show from the most influential and IMHO the definitive Future Jungle label ‘Boomsha Recordings’ by the label owner Daz Breakz (Friday evenings (UK) - www.planet-rave.com). A lot of prominent FJ scene heads/producers feature on there. I’ll definitely take a listen to your mix. Come over to the site if you can, you’d be most welcome to come in and join in the conversations.

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yah I still have 2 to 3 hours of dark drum and bass that I don’t touch on my hard drive. they are all 160 to 180 BPM

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I wish I would have known. I’d have come out.

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This is a genre I have been wanting to look into, going to have to check out the label mentioned above.

Any other labels // producers you can suggest for the hunt?

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Sub Focus did a song called “Last Jungle”. Its great.

And that label (Top Drawer Digital) controls most of the new sound. It takes ALOT of crate digging to find good tracks.

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Good timing, if you like Top Drawer, Digitally Mashed does his Top Drawer show on Planet-Rave tonight 8PM(UK).

Also Paul Woolford knocks out some good Jungle under his Special Request guise. Also defintely worth checking out is the new album from Bay B Kane on Boomsha - top class.

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That set you posted sounds like ordinary breakebeat stuff to me tbh

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I’m one of those guys that pretty much goes all over with tempos in my sets. aka one of the recent sets I did I starts at 110, up to 130, back to 115, up to 170, down to 85, then moved back up through tempos to end around 115…

This being said, I’ve had a pretty good response mixing in jungle and dnb into my sets, when done right… That meaning right track, right time, mixed in and out well. I have many tracks I use to pull this off. Tracks with the transitions built in and tracks when the breakdown drops tempo so I mix the first jungle track into that breakdown then run with dnb for a few tracks and mix back out generally with a half tempo track then pick the tempo back up over time.

Everyone knows me as being the guy who will give you whiplash with tempos, in a good way. Keeps my dance floor on their toes and never knowing what to truly expect.

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Nice to hear Schoco in there, he knows his stuff.

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I didn’t want to say anything, but since you did…

The track in the first topic is breakbeat, not jungle.

Jungle’s at least 150 BPM for the old school stuff, although the majority of tracks today are at 174.

You can still find new 160 BPM tracks, but you generally have to check the atmospheric and drumfunk labels.

I’ve been listening to drum n bass and jungle since early UK hardcore and breakbeat first showed up, so I would like to think I know what I’m talking about, but it’s become pretty difficult keeping up with all the juke/footwork/future stuff lately so maybe the definitions have changed.

And I mainly focus on techno now, since the drum n bass sound I like most is atmospheric (Good Looking Records, Covert Operations, etc.) which is a nearly dead/niche style.

Mostly I hear color by numbers liquid funk or neurofunk that all sounds the same.

You can find some bonkers stuff with the experimental and drumfunk labels though. Subtle Audio, Pinecone Moonshine, Hidden Hawaii, Outsider, Auxiliary, and all of Dev Pandya’s (aka Paradox, Alaska) labels.

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With respect, I disagree with some of that, a lot of old school breakbeat Hardcore and Jungle, plus genuine Jungle made today is sub 150bpm.

I agree with regard to recent flavours ref D&B, however there is a lot of new underground liquid D&B and that atmospheric Jungle being made still.

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Old school hardcore was generally 130-140 BPM, but jungle is definitely where the BPMs were pushed to 150.

Who do you mean specifically by genuine jungle? Producers, labels, etc.?

Because 140 is dubstep and breakbeat territory, imho.

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Yeah sorry I wasn’t totally disagreeing with you, obv you know your stuff. More that Jungle then and now was/is also around the 140bpm and above mark. I should’ve quantified; a lot of new breaks tracks like to use the Future Jungle or Jungle term, which is not correct, they are breaks. IMHO Jungle has a specific sound and production techniques. Tracks on Boomsha Recordings typify that.

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Listened to a couple tracks, I see what you’re talking about.

(and, hey, Bay B. Kane! I remember that dude.)

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:smiley: he’s the don is Bay B Kane

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This thread is doing my head in. There is no such thing as 140 jungle. It would be a different genre.

People are doing future jungle at 160 though. Moresounds, Ian, Ital Tek, Om Unit, Sinistarr.

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Bpm is just a number, I’ve never understood why sometimes it carries more weight than the actual production techniques, when used to define a genre of music. Not aimed at you b1sh0p, but just an observation I’ve made, seems to be common since the advent of digital djing.

Schoco’s recent album, Future Jungle, range of bpms, plenty in the 140-145bpm range.

I agree speeds have increased, certainly 150 seems to be more common over the last ur, but my point stands, bpm is just a number, the producrion techniques and resultant sound I believe define whether it is Jungle or not. I’ll ask some of the Jungle heads this eve, be interesting to see what they say. Interesting discussion on here, makes a nice change. Have good day all

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Just had a listen to some of the examples you gave, reckon a few pieces of what I see Jungle as in there, but most of those are mainly dubstep or D&B I would say.

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This genre is nothing new, it used to be called Jungle Tekno back in the 90’s. 140-150 Breakbeats yes, but with a DnB bassline instead of a bouncy breaks bass line.