Playing 140 Jungle Style in the Club Discuss...(Future Jungle, Jungle Tekno)

Indeed :slight_smile: Remember going out in the early/mid 90’s to the nights in Bristol as the sound was developing, plus the raves of course.

Anyone remember the Jungle Tekno compilations?

Not exactly. “Jungle Tekno” was just used as a name for a compilation series by Jumpin’ & Pumpin’.

It was a terrible compilation series too, I might add. The vinyl copies were useless as too many tracks were pressed on each side, and the CDs were rubbish with tracks pitched up and/or edited.

Sound quality was awful.

Anyway, there was a brief period of time during the transition from hardcore to jungle where different terms were used, such as darkness and happiness, but “jungle tekno” was never really a common term. Even “ambient jungle” and “intelligent jungle” were used to describe early Bukem, Studio Pressure (aka Photek,) DJ Crystl, 4 Hero’s “Parallel Universe,” etc., but that didn’t last long.

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Yep. Hated them too, for the reasons mentioned above.

Still, I owned them all because they were easy to find at Tower.

Tempo is instrumental in defining a genre. Nobody would say they’re playing 90 bpm house. There is no such thing as 140 jungle. It would be breaks or dubstep. At this point, jungle/drum and bass is so varied that a lot of people are just calling it “170” now. I have entire mixes without an Amen or a 2 step beat, but I still consider myself a dnb dj.

Yeah, definitely, they were terrible pressings, not even full length tracks, despite being ‘DJ Friendly’! :wink:. I’ve only really known Jungle and obviously what spawned off that at Drum and Bass, do remember a couple of MC’s spouting Jungle Tekno a couple of times, but never really liked the term personally.

Tempo plays a part granted, but the production and sound of it is more important IMHO. We’ll probably have to agree to disagree, but there are definitely genuine Jungle tracks at around the 140bpm mark.

On a wider point to the forum - I don’t understand the fixation with BPM’s, it’s as if, you must be an ‘EDM’ DJ if you play 128, or you’re a Deep House DJ at 120-125, or you’re a Dubstep DJ if it’s bang on 140.

Even if the tracks are made to a specific BPM, does anyone on this forum seriously pay any great attention to the exact BPM when they are playing out, as long as its in the approx. region of the orig BPM (±3 or 4% for e.g.)? Personally I’m all for no key lock and the ebb and flow of a set, including BPMs - maybe I, despite moving to digital, still have my turntables hat on.

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Played another set at a Massive rave here in ATL in Saturday.

Played for 3 1/2 hours, all jungle. Moving between 130 and 140. Then up to 160 DnB

We had that room PACKED OUT!! This track was the favorite of the night, an old one but still good.

Some would call this “Bass Breaks”. I just group it all in the genre “Jungle”

Please don’t associate that garbage with Jungle. That’s just Breaks, not jungle. Aquasky used to make drum and bass but haven’t for years.

I do consider Drum and bass, breaks, 140, 160, footwork, Juke to be in the category of Jungle because they all make use of “non straightened drum patterns”. I play all those sub genres, so its easier just to say Jungle.

Aquasky is awesome, Ragga Twins are awesome. Plain and simple.

It’s not Jungle. Point blank. Don’t shit on the genre I’ve dedicated my life to. Call it whatever the hell you want, but this garbage is not Jungle Music!

“Non straightened drum patterns”? Dude. Fuck you. Sorry, but fuck you.

Jungle is Jungle, it’s specific IMHO. D&B/Juke/Footwork/Hardcore Breaks etc, related maybe, but definitely not Jungle.

Good interesting debate this.

Well…the debate is getting a bit heated.

I can understand people being passionate about music though.

I agree jungle is a very specific style. Using the term to describe literally anything with a breakbeat is in a way disrespectful to fans of the music.

I think DJs should strive to use the correct terms for different styles. DJs tend to pass along knowledge and information, and I don’t think it would be helpful for someone to get the impression that the Aquasky track is jungle. If they then decided to check out jungle on their own, they’re going to end up confused.

Especially since jungle is something that was pretty well defined around two decades ago. There shouldn’t be any confusion over what is or is not jungle.

If there is confusion, than I strongly suggest going back and listening to the best compilation series from that era.

Drum & Bass Selection Vol. 1-5 on Breakdown Records.

If that still doesn’t sort out what jungle is, then people are going to get their licenses revoked and get locked up. No dubplates for you. :stuck_out_tongue:

haha guys, im not looking to get into anything lol.

I love you guys! What ever we call it, its fun to play and gets the people moving. I was just trying to spread some fun tunes around.

Lets get back to posting tracks!

sorry about the general term I applied to the music, no disrespect meant. I have been playing breaks, DnB, house, techno and everything in between for 10 years.

Love the music and I do love to see how passionate people get about it! You guys rock! Peace to you all.

All good :smiley: All agree we love some good music! :smiley:

Just to add, I have a lot of respect for the Aquasky guys, used to see them a lot down in Bournemouth in the mid/late 90’s, still very much knocking out quality tracks I totally agree. Dave Wallace’s remix of EBTG ‘Walking Wounded’ is a classic also.

haha I’m not taking Wikipedia as absoulute fact, but the article is interesting. Breakbeat - Wikipedia

Over on the Right side it talks about some of the derivative forms of breaks.

A brief playlist and general time line:

The mix is a brilliant breakbeat one 031999 but not what i’d define as jungle in the traditional sense. Maybe it has a different edge over the pond? A break beat track with some ragga vocals a jungle track does not maketh however.

For those heads who didn’t know, TEED laid down a killer jungle set in the boiler room. Surprising, yet expertly done!