sending dvs signal to daw ( ableton)

sending dvs signal to daw ( ableton)

hi guys , im trying to get a time coded signal to send from VDJ (or traktor.. or any dvs) to ableton (or reaper).

The idea is just to be able to lay down some scratch cuts on a separate track in ableton ( simple right? )

But i can t figure it out, been searching for a long ass time ( seen jack router, scratch track, ms pinky etc.. )… im getting lost with all the info, i just want something simple that ll work that i dont have to set up every single time i wanna record some simple cuts on a beat. (note i want eh cuts on a separate track to be able to edit the scratches independently from the beat later on, in production)

My set up: TTX usb, audio 4 dj, serato time codes, traktor time codes, (no mixer yet but its coming very soon, should i get a regular mixer or midi??). I own vdj, traktor, ableton and reaper.

Now with all that, is there a straight forward way to lay some cuts on a track using the time code vinyls? :rage:

Thanks !

You don’t want the timecode signal routed into Live, you want the audio from your DJ software (VDJ/Traktor) routed to a channel in Live.

You’re gonna need a pretty powerful machine to do it all in one, or 2 separate machines.

If you’ve got a Mac, it’s soundflower to the rescue. If not, it’s gonna be Jack.

I don’t know too much about Jack…

Thanks for your reply. I tried playing with jack before and it was a pure nightmare. First of all i couldnt even get any of the softwares to appear with in jack. Nothing nada…

any other alternatives? Im on pc by the way.

thanks

Any body else with suggestions??

anything other than a 100$ plugin? :slight_smile:

thanks for the suggestion though

You could download audio hijack pro (the demo should work). Set that up so it records from whatever your output source is, then import those into ableton and go from there.

im on pc, any other suggestions?

thank you !

First question. How are you actually going to be able to scratch without a crossfader?

But heres a method to record scratches using your current gear. Just off the top of my head so there may be a detail ive missed.

Plug in one turntable to Input A on Audio 4. . Set DJ software to output master on Output A.

Take a cable from output A, and plug it into input B.

Set input B as a recording source in Ableton.

Set output B as the master out in Ableton, and connect to your speakers.

Mixer is coming tomorow, i just wanted to get everything set up asap and get the technical problems out of the way already. ( or i could baby scratch forever?? kidding..)

Just to make it clear, when you refer to the input outputs, you refer to the ones on the audio 4 only? im having a bit of a hard time understanding your method. What is the purpose of going from output a to input b? Seems like an interesting technique though! will the technique stay the same once i get a mixer?

Ill try your suggestion as soon as i get home, thanks alot for your input, its much appreciated!, i ll report back!

cheers! :smiley:

It just means you are routing your signal out of and then back into the Audio 4, instead of doing the same thing in software with Jack. Its just simpler, and doesnt involve any software to troubleshoot, or any performance hit.

This is the correct way to do it.

+1

the idea was good, but having both program using the audio 4 dj as the audio interface makes ableton crash and VDJ glitch like crazy :disappointed: any ideas?

ok my settings in ableton got corrupted i was able to get both virtual dj and ableton running at same time without crashing. Now, im trying to get the setting proposed earlier but im having a hard time getting things routed properly i guess cause it doesnt give me the results i was hoping. Routing ch a 1-2 gives me a time code signal when recording in ableton and and setting b 3-4 gives me a super loud hum… heres my settings , plz help.

i think youve got your routing wrong, but I cant see the detail on your attached image.

sorry, here s a better one

thanks

Yep you havent followed the routing.

VDJ - timecode in on A left and right.
VDJ - Master out on A left and right.

Disable other assignments.

Take physical cable from A output left and right, and plug other end into input B left and right.

Ableton - Set recording input to B input left and right.
Ableton - Set master output to B output left and right.

Disable other assignments.

This will be much easier when you get a mixer.

AMAZING!! it works! but i only have one issue, in ableton my “in” ch 3-4 peaks like crazy!! its super distorted, i tried playing with volumes in vdj but no avail, ill keep looking. But would you have an idea why the channel is peaking so much?

But thanks so much brother! finally works!
:thumbsup:

also, is it possible to just record one deck? now i have my samples on the left deck but the track playing on the right deck. but ultimately id like to only output the left deck to ableton while still being able to hear both decks while cutting.

Thanks you all, you ve been really helpful!