To buy a XDJ-R1 or a pair of used CDJ 900s?

To buy a XDJ-R1 or a pair of used CDJ 900s?

Since the XDJ-R1 release i have been considering scrapping the idea of buying a pair of used Cdj 900s for $1800 australian. Expecting the XDJ to be $1300 here on release so if im spending this much money i really need to be sure. Does anyone believe that 900 mk2 will be released this year or at all?

Lol are you even asking?
In what condition are the 900s?

You know what? just buy them xD

plus you need a mixer. that makes a used CDJ 900 setup twice the price of a new XDJ-R.

If you can afford the 900s, buy them. If you can’t, get the XDJ-R1. Are you in the UK? I’ve seen pre-ordersfor the XDJ here in US for $899 with a couple of 5% off coupons = $850. That’s right around the price of one 900. Soooooo…

I already have a DJM 800 so need for a mixer, I can afford 900s just wanted to get peoples opionions on how it stacks up compared to a CDJ DJM package (other than the shitty 350 pack).

well basicly you get the same and then some more with the cdj900 + you djm800. The djm800 has the same FX as XDJ-R1 + some.
XDJ has hotcues and sampler (How much do you need that) I mainly use hotcues for fast selection where I like to start the mix in of a song, That can be done with memorie points on CDJ900. you can link the CDJ900 with a computer and use Rekordbox from there.
XDJ you can use with a iPad and that gives some intresting controls that are not easy or not at all on the CDJ+DJM setup.
You could sell the DJM800 and use the money to get the XDJ you would prob not need the DJM anyway as you can add cdj/turntables to the XDJ.
The CDJ+DJM setup takes up a lot of space and is heavy to carry around specialy if in a flight case but it’s plug and play with Traktor. XDJ not so big much lighter to carry.
I would go for XDJ personaly because of size and I need to bring my setup to most clubs/gigs.

Yeah i think im still leaning towards the CDJ 900s. Purely because i start at a local club once i turn 18 having previously had residency but been put on hold due to legal reasons. Also have small festivals and events coming up that obvioulsy will have CDJs there installed like the club so i feel i need to master CDJs as i have CDJ 1000 mk3 but selling because i hate burning cds. Also looking to use the 900s for house party gigs as well and just sell up my controllers so i can practice for club at home and use them for gigs also. Was why i was asking if the XDJ comes close to replicating the feel of real cdjs and that.

I don’t think R1s will be very hard to transition to 900/2000s. They’re so similar, main difference between software side.

If you can afford the CDJs, I’d definitely go that route. Otherwise XDJ-R1.

Better buy the cdjs, and use no rekordbox, it will bug at the most critical moment.

Just take a look at rekordbox oficial forum, 95% of the threads are bug reports.

The idea behind it is awsome, but the first time I had a big bug with it I got totally disappointed.

Both the XDJ R1 and CDJs use the same media. They can both read from CDs, as well as USB sticks prepared with or without Rekordbox.

Therefore the stability of Rekordbox should not be a deciding factor.

Starting from the point that you SHOULD NOT use rekordbox, CDJ-900 is superior.
Without rekordbox XDJ-R1 is a controller without sync… its ridiculous.

You can also use de CDJ-900 with a DJM-900Nexus mixer, with infinite possibilities. With a XDJ-R1 you are stuck with that “mixer” in the middle forever.

What makes you think the R1 significantly different than a pair of CDJs?

Ended up getting a pair of CDJ 900s for a mad deal. 2x CDJ 900s, roadcase, deck savers & a DJM 350 for $2000. Reselling the DJM 350 so get about 300 back from that

Firstly because the creator of this thread will train with equipment that is the 2nd most common on clubs in the whole world. I don’t know any venue in the globe that uses XDJ-R1.
Then, as I said, XDJ-R1 has its own mixer, which is not the same as a DJM-900Nexus or a DJM-2000/2000Nexus. You get stuck with it.
Also, I don’t believe it is the same thing to play without rekordbox on both of them. Pitch faders on CDJ-900 are the double the size, it has a much more precise Jog, Jog adjust, and Loops.
Its like comparing a CDJ-900 with CDJ-350 (edited, I mean CDJ-200, even CDJ-350 is better than a XDJ-R1 without rekordbox…).

You’re about to get makar’d so hard :stuck_out_tongue:

Pitch faders are a fair point. I’m still not sure what you’re getting at about Rekordbox.

XDJ-R1 without rekordbox is useless. CDJ-900 is the second best equipment on earth to play without rekordbox or any software.

Rekordbox simply sucks. Some of the usual bugs are listed below:

  • The software crashes when opening.
  • The software crashes when using it.
  • The software crashes when exporting to USB Sticks.
  • The CDJs don’t “read” all the info on the USB Sticks (Hot Cues are lost, Memory Points are lost, etc.)
  • The CDJs crash when using USB Sticks with rekordbox (yes, they simply don’t work.)
  • The music drifts when using loops (poor accuracy or other bugs)

These are just some of the bugs.
I’m a member of the pioneer forum and I believe I’ve read a bug report about every single thing of the whole rekordbox process.
The software made people so angry I met a guy who is doing reverse engineering on the software to make an alternative software that, according to him, will work better than the oficial rekordbox from pioneer.

For DJs like me that don’t like playing with softwares, using Rekordbox flawlessly is a dream. Sadly, it will not come true in a close future.

The instability of Rekordbox made, for the first time, a new CDJ be worse that its ancestor. CDJ-2000 is still the industry standard, and the CDJ-2000Nexus is becoming one of the most found at “Used” sections of DJ stores.

According to your signature, you have a CDJ-2000. If I were you I would:
First, not sell it. Second, try rekordbox for some time untill a bug appears, and realise it could have happened when you were on a club.

How is the 900 much better than the R1 without Rekordbox? If you have CDJ 900s it makes no sense at all to use non-Rekordbox media.

Loops drifting mean you haven’t set your grids properly. I’ve had problems with the computer app crashing, but exported drives have always worked flawlessly on my 2000s.

Come on, are you serious? Do you even play without softwares? I really believe it is better to play with cds on a CDJ-200 than a XDJ-R1, just look at it!
You are making the same question for the third time, I’m not going to write a big post again to read “but how is the CDJ-900 better than the XDJ-R1?”

For people who play without damn softwares, it makes all the sense to have the most accurate CDJs. Some people really use them you know? they are not just controllers for traktor…

The only real benefits of the 900’s control surface over the R1 are the pitch fader and jog display. They both have dot-matrix screens showing pretty much the same information, other than the very basic mini waveform on the 900.

I’m not asking for a huge post, but please just make a few points about why you think the R1 is worse than a CDJ 200.