what if traktor ran as a vst in ableton?
could this ever be UN-officially done? ill bring cakes and pies!
That would be great but it couldn’t really happen without NI. I’m sure you could make a wrapper of some sorts but you wouldn’t be able to use control vinyl with it because it only allows for one soundcard. To use control vinyl, it has to be a Traktor certified mixer. To get around that I’ve heard is possible but you would have to do that plus make a wrapper for it. It would be less trouble using sound flower/ jack server /aggregated audio.
yup… JackCTL jack audio… run that to route the 2 together, use a large soundcard like a rackmount presonus or focusrite and bam… you are good to go
Has ANYONE ever got JACK working in Windows to route audio from Traktor to Ableton???
Anyone???
'Cos I tried a couple of years back (but with DJ Decks) and it was practically impossible…
If I could get this working (Traktor > Ableton) I would be a happy guy!!!
I am failing to see the benefits? enlighten me.
Looping in Ableton.
Routing in Ableton.
Send effects in Ableton.
FX Chains in Ableton.
Dummy Clips in Ableton.
VST FX in Ableton.
Automation in Ableton.
SIMULTANEUS MULTITRACK RECORDING IN ABLETON!!!
I can go all day, mate! 
[QUOTE]Has ANYONE ever got JACK working in Windows to route audio from Traktor to Ableton???
Anyone???
'Cos I tried a couple of years back (but with DJ Decks) and it was practically impossible…
If I could get this working (Traktor > Ableton) I would be a happy guy!!![/QUOTE]
From my little experience, it’s not the routing which is the most annoying (well it IS annoying) but the fluctuation of the midi clock that makes most of the VSTs unusable
I have only routed ableton on linux using Jack… its a dream…
That is where Mad Zach has a solution:
MAD ZACH’S ON-THE-FLY SYNCING SECRET
Unfortunately, MIDI is an antiquated format and syncing MIDI clocks is not always a very reliable solution. To compensate and prepare for MIDI mishaps (mostly the two softwares getting off sync), I’ve built in a very convenient delay which I put on the Ableton bus (the track I have all my other tracks routed through). It’s essentially a simple delay set to free mode (not sync) with the dry/wet turned up to 100% and the feedback at 0%. I then have a knob assigned to the delay time, effectively creating a track delay (which is normally disabled when receiving external MIDI sync). This knob does the same thing that MIDI offset does in the preferences, but is much cleaner live and does not cause any system glitches.
On Mac maybe, not on pc (ie using a generic midi output and not traktor virtual output) unless I’m wrong. And I’m not talking about drifting, but really about serious fluctuation.
Are YOU able to do it on pc with a stable midi clock?
But what does any of that have to do with DJing?
You can already do all of those things with other DAWs, and I dont understand why controlling them with a turntable changes anything?
When you have that much automation going on, its not Djing, its more like LivePA and there are better tools for that.
Midi Yoke 
you can setup virtual midi and use it with jack…
Routing what?
Sending what FX? What exactly is missing from Ableton that you require this?
What is a Dummy Clips?
VST FX, isn’t this possible now? I’ve rarely used Ableton but never seen a DAW not have VST FX.
Automating what? it is baked right in?
Thanks for the list but still not seeing the benefit?
You don’t understand, mate.
Do you understand that I want to route audio OUT of Traktor, and INTO Ableton, so that I can use the features in Ableton that are NOT available in Traktor?
Yes but your original message wasn’t clear. So you want to use VST FX with traktor n stuff like that? I guess that could be kinda cool but would end up being one of those things that isn’t worth the headache.
What FX do you think are missing from Traktor? What do you want to automate? What is wrong with Traktors looping?
If you don’t know what Ableton is capable of, I’m not going to explain it to you. I can’t teach you what Ableton can do in a orum post!
Just trust me - it would be GREAT.
+1 ^^
easy…
set tracktors decks to send audio out of your interface
DECK A: 1-2
DECK B: 3-4
have the output of the interface go into inputs on your interface
DECK A: in1-2
DECK B: in3-4
then inside Ableton use the external instrument plugin to run the tracktor decks as instruments inside Ableton. 
… do your Ableton magic and send the audio to a sound system