Xone:92 filters TSP2 vs The real thing
What is your guys opinion on the Xone:92 effects in TSPro2 vs the real thing? I ask because I plan on getting either an Ecler Nuo or the Xone 22. But I also plan to get the X1, so if the Traktor effects are just as good I may go with the Nuo.
Any comments? Also considering a DN-X600.
Sorry for n00b questions, it’s my first mixer and I’m trying to make a final decision!
digital replication of analog sound is never the same. How pleasing to the ear it is entirely subjective.
Ain’t nothin’ like the real thang baaaby.
Can’t vouch for the 22 though.
the filter 92 is good, but the power to kill your woofer in just one klick is only to be found in the real thing (xone 32 and up).
For a final decision go with the nuo 2.0, that ecler frequency band is better than the a&h 3 band (got the 42 and i am not really happy with that eq
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The Filter on the 22 is a castrated version of the 92, for e.g. the resonance is a button. This results into you not being able to activate the filter without anyone noticing it. That is the biggest problem of the a&h filter imho, there is no way to activate them and not let the listener know about it. You can minimize it but not to 0, like the djm effects are setup to, and you will need a resonance knob to do so.
to summarize it a bit, if you play techno/minimal only, the xone 22 will make you happy. if you play anything else, go for the nuo 2.0.
(got to admit that the vcf is a bomb, if you want it badly and find one check out the xone vf-1)
Got the Xone 42 and the filter there definitely has stronger resonance than Traktor’s Filter 92.
the strength of the filter 92 has is on the list of things to be fixed in TSP2, but in TSP1.2.7 it sounded awesome!
Xone 92 mixer with the analogue filter are the nuts,
Way better than Traktors
Xone DB4 mixer has the filters but are now digital, so I don’t know how they compare to the analogue or the ones in Traktor
Does the filter knobs give the same effect as the filter 92 effect in TSP2?
The filter knob on the xones does determine at which frequency the filter starts to cut in.
The buttons dictate the filter type (high/mid/low), you can combine for some cool sounds 
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So no high pass and low pass knob like the advanced 92 in traktor.
There is no neutral position or dry wet and you wont get that insane bass boost on high pass and 20 Hz frequency 
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So from my experience both are totally different.
Personally I think the filters on the xone 92 are way better,
you can also have the ablity to make the crowds ears bleed!
Don’t have a 92 available for a side by side comparison, but from memory the DB4 and 92 sound quite similar. Side by side with the DB4 vs Traktor is night and day - the DB4 sounds better (as it damn well should for 15 times the cost!) and the most obvious difference is a much broader range of control with the resonance (0-100% resonance on the 92 effect in Traktor is the equivalent to a range of about 25% on the DB4). Ableton’s auto-filter can sound a lot closer to the Xone filters than Traktor does, but hardware will always sound better. I’ll post a recording later.
Can you msg me with how to do this in abletons auto filter?
The simplest method is just using the frequency and Q of the auto filter in the same manner as the frequency and resonance of the A&H filter and setting the other parameters to a sound of your liking. Tarekith’s twister filter is also a nice tool as a single knob BPF since there’s a dead zone in the middle - Tarekith's Twister Filter Rack - Fun with your knob! - Ableton Forum
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https://soundcloud.com/digitaldevil/filters-n-stuff/s-9I6QV
After listening back to this I realized that it would probably be more useful if it were actually organized properly for side by side comparison. Ver oops. Will do that later if anyone really cares. The order IIRC was Traktor high and low @ 50% res, then 0, then 100, then DB4 @ 0, 50, 100 with low, high, and band, then messing around with an Ableton BPF because it happened to be on the record channel.
Analog filters all the way, the traktor emulations, with a lot of resonance sounded funky and with digital distortion. I own a xone 4d and owned a 22 , the filter on 22 sound great but it is very noticeable when engage not on the 4d or the 92