Xone 92 vs Xone DB2
Thoughts? title says it all which one would you choose ![]()
Xone 92 vs Xone DB2
Thoughts? title says it all which one would you choose ![]()
Each one is great, it.s just what you want;
4 band eq & filters (more control on filters)
Or efx & filters (little less control on THE filters) but filter mode on THE eqās.
Depends on your priorities and what youāre looking for in a mixer and how you like to mix.
For me, itās a no brainer now; a Xone DB2. Thereās a price drop here in The Netherlands, and the Xone DB2 is just ⬠76 more expensive than a Xone:92. But like Xonetacular already stated, it all depends on your priorities.
Advantages of the Xone:92 to the Xone DB2:
Now, letās compare the Xone DB2 to the Xone:92:
Iāll hope that this is enough for you to decide
. If you have questions regarding my comparison, donāt hesitate to ask!
Normally when I use the xone 92 the things I use and like the most is the 4-Band EQ and i like the HP Filter would the DB:2 emulate the 92s filter system? and i use the extra channel for my maschine and sometimes use the send for delay pedalā¦you said the DB:2 Eqs have 3 different modes where would you interchange with them on the mixer? and how do you assign the effects?
Well, essentially the High, Mid and Low knobs are becoming your filters.
In FILTER mode, the High knob becomes the control of the low-pass filter, the Mid knob becomes the control of the Resonance/Sharpness (Q) and the Low knob becomes the control of the high-pass filter.
For example, to imitate the high-pass filter; rotate the High knob fully clockwise, set the Mid knob at the Resonance you would like to have (I tend to keep it in the middle) and turn the Low knob fully anticlockwise. By slowly turning the Low knob to the middle or further, you hear the high-pass filter. I hope I made it clear like this
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Which delay pedal you you have? I think you can just āthrowā it away, because the onboard Delay FX are just fantastic, where you can adjust the Beat Fractions or have the Delay in milliSeconds. So no need for a pedal anymore!
The 4 band-EQ, well you just have to get over it. I think that you have lots and lots more control with FILTER mode.
You assign the FX with the XFADE/FX jumper right below the EQ section. It can be set to X (FX unit 1) or either Y (FX unit 2). So you can assign one, two, three or even four channels to one FX unit (major plus point comparing to the DB4) or have none assigned to the FX unit.
Another plus point: Post fader FX, just like the Pioneer ones
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iāve only mixed on the 92,but i do like the look of the db2 better.if i had to choose iād go the db2!
JDFS sums it up excellently, I think. I donāt know if you (Santos) ever played on a 92, but after using a 4-band EQ, Iām never EVER going back to a 3-band. So my only advice to you is to test out a 92 if you didnāt do that already, try out the EQ and find out if itās your thing. If you donāt care about the 4-band EQ, the DB2 it isā¦
Edit: I didnāt look at you sig: Xone 92
. So the only question remains, could you part with the 4-band EQ?
I honestly do love the 4 Band EQ but I feel as if all the other things out-way the 4-band and it does have an isolator built inā¦not only that but then i wouldnt have to bring my soundcard (depending on the night) nor my delay pedalā¦but does it have an extra line input to route my maschine into?
Yes, it has. But you do need an external soundcard for that! Then sync the MIDI clock and youāre good to go (I believe)
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ya you can use an external soundcard or the optional route of RCA to 1/8 from computer jack to RCA on mixer ![]()
Not with Traktor you donāt
You wonāt get isolation but itās easy enough to map a knob to your high mids (or whatever your favorite part of the 4 band EQ is) in Traktor; the internal Traktor EQs work even when youāre mixing externally so you donāt lose any control by having a midi-mapped knob to satisfy your 4-band cravings.
HAVE CAKE! EAT TOO!!
That depends if the frequency of the mid range knob is adjustable, or else you wonāt get proper separation. In that case youāll have to map the mid high and mid lo to a knob and leave the mid range on the mixer for what it is. But doesnāt that beat the purpose of the whole mixer? Plus, the EQ on the 92 is analog. I donāt say analog is better per se, but why go through all the trouble by using two EQās (on the mixer and in Traktor), if the 92 can do both?
Ps.: I know, Iām biased
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Well, that should be quite a good solution, if it should work! I donāt know that, unfortunatelyā¦
And the comments about the 4 band-EQ; if you MIDI map those on the DB2, youāll keep switching between MIDI and normal mode, thus meaning you canāt use the normal mixer while adjusting the Traktor EQ. Just get used to the DB2/DB4ās EQ and adapt your favourite mode; mineās FILTER mode.
If Iām tweaking a knob in traktor Iām probably not going to need to tweak an EQ knob on the mixer at the same time ⦠but if I did want the ability to adjust both, I would just map those extra knobs on the X1 or other midi controller ā certainly both EQs would work at the same time if you did adjust them that way. Anyway itās just a thought for those who want that extra bit of control with the Xone 4-band EQ.
But yeah I just use filter mode on the DB and even though I sometimes map the VCI knobs that way (with the 4-band eq) I find I donāt bother using it much.
salve!
i couldnt help but register and chime inā¦
as this is my first post ill babble a bit:
so im a dj/producer that didnt make any music for 3-4 years at all⦠dont ask why, pls![]()
so i recently moved and now have sopace for a small setup againā¦
pulled out the old 1210s⦠and that was it⦠no more mixer or anything else
being an admirer of the timecode vinyl but never had the opportunity to buy one, i set myself up for a NI scratch with maschine as controller⦠starting from my hh/d+b basics and maybe later do some live sound also technoid/ electric styleā¦
thats the premisesā¦
now i scanned the market for a suitable mixer⦠coming from the scratch/hh dj era i was looking into 4 channel mixers with a good x-fader firstā¦
then i quickly realized that the market somwhat shrinked and that there is no such thing as a simple 4 channel mixer without any effects on boardā¦maybe a nuo4-didnt like itā¦
after thinking the setup through now i realized that the maschine itself could fill up any number of dj battle mixer⦠knowing the p&g reputation and a&h continuity and quality i see almost no way that it wont be a xone 92 or db2 for me, eitherā¦
things i consider is:
92: the4band eq-more important with electro than hh, the swappable fader option, the 6 st-inputs compared to db2“s 5, 6 signals being mixable at 1 time, in general: 4 years before id never purchase a digital mixer for djing⦠having an analogue piece⦠has 2 aux sends-though i dont have any 19`` effects or sth
db2:with the db2 id have 5 channels mixable, but could choose 4st inputs from maschine or sth, is midi assignable, no xfade swap, no 4band but 2 effects. like the input matrix
my problem is-i dont know the maschine yet, reallyā¦
will i ever have the desire to output more than 4st tracks from the maschine, but i guess notā¦
on the other hand with the 92 i could work with 6 tracks, but need an external interface-no big fanā¦
allinall-i guess i could live with a db2-never had a 4band eq in a dj mixer-so maybe wont miss them⦠db2 fader curve performance doesnt seem toooo bad⦠anyone know how much 1 of thece would cost to replace?
anyway-its a pretty effin hard decicitionā¦i really wanna order one of these babies tomorrow-could you give some more input pls?!?
would be great
and forgot the need of a audio interface with the xone 92⦠rme would be my choice but for a portable solution is pretty junky
my setup right now would be
TA10 Xone:92 Beschreibung
Out Port A Input 1 Audio für Traktor-Deck A (geroutet über Maschine Gruppe A)
Out Port B Input 2 Audio für Traktor-Deck B (geroutet über Maschine Gruppe B)
Out Port C Input 3 Audio für Traktor-Deck C (geroutet über Maschine Gruppe C)
Out Port D Input 4 Audio für Traktor-Deck D (geroutet über Maschine Gruppe D)
Main Out Return 1 Audio von Maschine, Gruppen E-H
In Port C Record Out Audio für Traktor Mix-Recorder
as in this thread-in germanā¦
http://www.traktorbible.com/de/t2_maschine_ta10.aspx
could be done with both mixers and an audio 10, but with the db2 i could bring 8 st channels from the maschine to the mix instead of just 1 stereo sum from grp a-d with the xone 92ā¦
still dunnoā¦very hard choice..even more so if you never had the stuff in your handsā¦
With the DB2/DB4 you can even route the Maschine channel to a Traktor C/D channel (I want to route it to channel D, which I will use as sample deck) and donāt even need an external soundcard. The only thing I will need then is a USB Hub, since my MBP only has 2 USB inputs.
Iām only using Maschine as a step sequencer or to trigger one shots, but I think it will be in the future. First, I want to get my hands on the Kontrol F1 and then Iāll decide if I need the Maschineā¦
hmm still not getting it⦠what do you mean by "the " maschine channelā¦
i dont know the box-but my guess is you could output 16 channels and input 16 (8grps x2) channels into the maschine?
wouldnt it be nice to be able to have as many outputs of the maschine routed to your mixer?
what are the common setups / channel routings to and from a maschin? i know it depends on style, but what are āmost seen setupsā you guys have stumbled upon?
also with the db2ā¦couldnt i assign the traktor decks 1-4 as inbuts over usb?
guess not thats why they usw the plugin in above postā¦
but its strange reallyā¦it should be easy to offer the track decks over asio drivers..or am i wrong?