I was all set to buy the Novation Twitch until I saw the increased price and thought “for 500 dollars I can setup a DVS!” Now a couple of weeks later I realized how faulty my thinking is. As Technics in newyork are retardedly overpriced and ‘driven hard’ I found myself turning towards the Numark TTX’s for their ridiculous torque. Currently I use a Numark Total Control for light mixing and want to ‘take my mixing to the next level.’
The latest deal on craigslist is for two Numark TTX1’s (the one’s that say torque hold with no heat problems), a Rane Empath Mixer, Flight Case, Ortofon Elektro styluses, slip mats, and cables for $900. Is this the type of deal to jump on? It was a bit outside my price range but for quality products you have to be willing to pay the price. I would still need to purchase a NI audio 6/8 to set it up with traktor. Whats everyone’s opinions?
Whats the general consensus of Rane mixers, and more importantly the Rane Empath? It looks plain and I was expecting to pay less for a mixer. Because Mixer technology has come a long way in 5ish years does it still pay to get the mixer?
That sounds like an OK deal, check that the styli aren’t fucked. Bear in mind though that as you said, you’ll need to drop a few extra hundred bucks on Traktor Scratch Pro 2 with its audio interface. I think that’s like another $500-600, so more than the Twitch anyway let alone the $900 for the gear. And of course, the twitch you could actually take places and use whereas most of that gear would just sit at home.
Don’t get me wrong, I really like playing with DVS, but for me the Twitch is too good a deal to pass by and a better decision if I had to decide between the 2. Which, of course, I don’t
well..
it depends on what you want.
I love mixing on TTs BUT, I’ve settled on using controllers for now.. reasons
portability 2 TTs + Mixer + Stand + Lights is A LOT to carry.
with my controller setup I can through everything in a backpack and just have to worry about stands and lights.
Maintenance.. w/ TTs you have to up keep needles.
Vinyls.. I love vinyl so if I had TTs I’d be too tempted to blow a huge chunk of my money on vinyls.
I had one show where the floor was weak and the needle would occasionally jump when people got close and started jumping. Also another I was playing outside and some strong wind came and blew the needle out of place. ..and I feel that my job, as a DJ, is to make sure those issues don’t happen. So thats another perk of a controller.
I would LOVE to use TTs BUT in my current position, my best option is digital.
at 400 the twitch was a steal. At 500 I’m iffy. It looks like a small step up from my Total Control and about a couple inches bigger. I know people complain about lugging gear back and forth, and I’ve never been in that position, but it feels like a small arguing point. I feel like in order to be taken seriously I need to bring some real tables to the ‘table’ (pardon the pun). Vinyls are no big deal to me but I feel like thats part of the culture which I haven’t experienced. All the oldschool DJ’s I know (through my dad) all run pure vinyl systems or DVS systems to keep a ‘purist’ mind set. I’m aware of everything the twitch does, but a lot of that can be emulated through midi controllers. I was hoping to pickup an audio 6 on the cheap and NOT worry about the cost of traktor scratch.
It’s just a bit out of my price range. I mean I can afford it and probably sell it for as much as I bought it for if something comes up within the next few years. It’s just an investment, and as an investor it’s my job to listen to the pros and cons and do my research.
It’s nowhere near as bad as it was when the S4 was coming out lol. The place was like a warzone with crater-like circular discussions happening over and over again lol. I don’t think we’ll be starting a Twitch specific subforum just yet. But I am super stoked about mine arriving
It’s £399 or $499, the price has always been the same.
Even if you get a good deal on an audio 6 you’ll still need to buy a Traktor Scratch licence. Unfortunately you can’t just plug it into Traktor Pro and have Scratch functionality without the licence.
Well.. if you’re looking for the satisfaction of TTs..
then the only way to get your fix is to get a pair.
I highly doubt you will ever regret doing so.
I vote for the TTs. The twitch seems alright.. but like you said its just another hyped controller.. and the next new fad is close to come..
but TTs will always be TTs.
snatch the deal and if you end up not being satisfied sell them back for around the same price you got it. (it’ll probably be around that price for the next few year) where as controllers loose A LOT of value as soon as something new comes out.
I have vestax pdx 2000s. Tt’s and they are more stable then the ttx numark…id be willing to part from them for the right price, nobody seemed to jump on the deal I had on here earlier this week so I kept them…you can get technics 1200 on ebay for $250-350 used plus shipping. Techs are worth the extra money
I let a pair of custom white Technics with new pitch faders, RCAs, LEDs, slipmats, 2 carts/headshells and 6 styli go for $700 on ebay.
also new odyssey cases!
You could probably find a working used one w/o a case, slipmat and needles for $200. Or if you waited and searched you might be able to find one for $70 like I did
Honestly, that turntable deal is pretty damned decent if it’s still available.
It’s pretty close to the setup I’m going after, and if I could have gotten an empath I would have. (Also have the Elektro’s, great carts imo). That third channel isn’t needed, but it is nice compared to just a 2 channel mixer.
Really though, you consider 600ish for an Empath (used), flightcases being what they are (200-300), Elektro’s (200 for a pair basically, got mine for 150 used), and then the tables on top of that? You’d be making out.
You thought about an S4? doesn’t that currently come with free scratch upgrade?
That covers having a mixer with dvs and a controller…
Obviously not a very portable DVS solution mind.
For me TTs for at home but controller for playing out. To me the pro sound of djing comes from your flow and not from what medium you use to control mp3s.
When I play out, there’s no doubt that i’m working the crowd and the vibe. No one even cares what i’m using, not other djs and certainly not the punters.
