Is it wrong to steal music u have already bought?

I would like to dispel any rumors of sub-perfect quality from torrent websites. Perhaps none of you have heard but there is such a thing as a private tracker, and the conditions of being a member means regularly submitting perfect rips and downloading/seeding to keep the seed/download ratio’s positive.

On the topic of downloading music. Open source for life. You do it for the crowd, energy, music, and punani not for the money. So if you are going to compare your self to your favorite producer and say it’s not worth doing because you aren’t going to get paid; well then I say you are a greedy bastard.

if he had a cd and lost it, surely he wouldnt go into a store to steal another one.

but if you have COD4:MW2 purchased via steam and you lose your media, they allow you to download another copy to your hdd so you can continue with what you purchased in the past.

itunes also, though one time only, allows you to re-download music in the event of a harddrive crash.

so if you own the vinyl, havent lost it, i dont see a problem to recoup that music through a different medium.

beatport stands different, you have to download each version differently. if you download a wav, you should be allowed to download each sub-version for free (imo, flame away) as it costs more, and can reproduce the other versions with the right technical know-how (Read: google)

Meanwhile, back on planet earth …

I just think record companies used to stick it to the public by making us buy a collection of say 15 songs with only one song we liked out of those 15. Meaning you were buying songs you did’nt even really want. Now in todays genration the public is just sticking it back to those guys who made rediculous amount of money. They wern’t thinking with the times and they gut burned for it. Don’t blame the public blame the software developers and record companies in my opinion.

I know it hurts the artist in the long run and ts not legal, bla bla bla. I for one buy 99% of my music just for the ease of use and quality. But if I cant find it anywhere else I will download it illegally just because the resource is there. (and I am sure people do the same) It’s just human nature..the average joe does not give a shit about anyone else but themselves when it comes to listening to music and it’s not going to change. If it wasnt downloading it illegally it would be recording tapes off the radio or something of the like. We are in a funny stage. Eventually over time the public decides what they like and how they listen to music and how they buy it. Just like how everyhting else evolves in the world. Don’t worry mega artists will still be super rich and the struggling artist will still be struggling.

Anywas my rant is over and I don’t rant much haha

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Meanwhile, back on planet earth …
[/quote]Dudechadbro, are you telling me you don’t think getting truck loads of fine poon tang for being behind the booth isn’t worth being a DJ? :confused:

If I got ‘truck loads of fine poon tang’ from anyone other than the wife, she’d have words …

Slightly off topic, but if my laptop hard drive fails and I have no backup of the 1000+ tunes all bought from beatport, can i re-download them (from beatport) (for free)?

Hi everyone, Long time lurker, first time poster. To the OP, no I dont think thats an issue, infact i do the same.

This is just like Dookie (green Day) ALL over again, I bought that album at 15 on tape. then again at 17 on CD, then again somewhere around 20. Thats 3 times Green day got paid. Thats not right.

The guy above here, use words like industry to describe piracy. What is the piracy industry u speak of? The pirates bay makes no money from piracy, nor do an of the other torrent sites. sure they sell adverts but what site dosnt? The only people profiting off of piracy are those illegal Aliens in downtown Los Angeles that pop up in the middle of Santy alley with a blankiet full of pirated DVDS laided out on the concrete.. THEY MAKE MONEY.

hell, even microsoft cares not for single torrenters, and made that statement clear when windows 7 betas and RCs were available.

they care about the mass-piraters who are burnings thousands, millions, of their software and selling them on the black market.

the 100 or so downloads of ke$ha’s tiktok remix is not breaking anyone’s bank…

How do u figure?

Walking into a store an stealing a physical copy of somthing is theft. Downloading somthing is available to EVERYONE who loads the page, IS FAR FROM walking into a store an stealing.

I know it broke my heart when I saw lars ulrich driving around in the Black s series BMW and not the Z series. Poor guy. I also heard piracy has affected britny spears pocket book and she had to go with the smaller lear jet and not the delux. Poor girl I hope she dosnt freak out again and cut off all her hair.

Slightly O/T: I lol’d so hard at that. Mind you, i’m sitting in my Econ class right now. Everyone looked over at me, and uhm… I had to make up some bullshit statement as to why I was laughing so he wouldn’t get mad about me having my laptop out.

On topic: I feel that if you have purchased the song once, you are entitled to get it and use it in any form (digital or w/e) you choose to use it in. If you have it on a CD, you are more than welcome to download it or rip it. Essentially, the two are the same.

That’s just my two cents!

If you make a mix and give that to people for free, is that illegal?

stands back

If you own a cd, dvd, etc, you are allowed to make 1 backup copy for personal use only. To me this means that even if I own Barney Does Fraggle Rock, I am not entitled to have my friend’s backup copy of the same title. Therefore, owning a specific vinyl cut doesn’t entitle you/me to acquire a backup via bit torrent. My opinion, but it makes sense (to me)

Ohhh thats a good point. What say all u the anti Torrent crowed?

Everytime u hand out a mixed tape (CD or MP3) u are Supporting this “piracy industry”…

NB I buy all my music and fully support that argument, but as semantics go, it’s interesting

thinks semantics is the right word

I better shut my mouth or else the RIAA is gonna start writing letters to DJs.

no, that is actually allowed. however, if you dont supply a full tracklisting with your demo’s, it is slightly frowned upon

Really, I believe you but why? And surely there’s no grey area, either it’s illegal or not, rather than “frowned upon” if you know what I mean.

where you getting your facts from btw? Just be a good resource…

Allowed By whom? Does it says this on the record sleeve (LOL I said Record sleeve in a Digital DJ forum. I gusse thats showing my age.) or something?

Actually no ur wrong its not allowed. Technically its illegal. What makes mixing a set any differnt from making a itunes cd for a friend? What cuase u blended the begging and ends of the tracks, looped the center and added a different snare or a different high hat arrangement, magically its a differnt song not binded by copywrite law?

Honestly I think the whole copyright things is retarded and needs to be rethought out. RIP: REMIX doc anyone? Someone like girl talk is radically diffenrnt from what we all do here.

Its just u cant say one thing is wrong and the other is legal when they are both inherently the SAME THING.

Most arists are smart enough to look the other way they know this is who buys there music.