torrents keeping music alive (sensible descusssion please)
I like to mix in alot of old tracks and have a broad music rang in my song selection. However the main stream sources do not offer a portal for high quality older music! With EDM there are a few choices mainly beatport.
There are private torrent sites with huge selections of tracks, that are only high quality and there is no bad transcoding there. Why is there no legal alternatives it seems for getting a huge range of top quality music from artists popular and not so popular. Even artists like kool and the gangs early stuff is not availible though legal channels.
I am no longer a member of any sites like this since oink got taken down, however my big gripe is having to still buy music on vinyl in 2012. I love collecting my vinyl but in this day and age I should be able to get music legally without going down this channel.
Please do not talk about any specific places to get copywrited material, as it would be nice to discuss this without the mods having to close this thread down
I usually regret getting involved in these discussions, but anyway…
Yes you may be able to hunt down some rare used vinyl on discogs or from some other obscure source, but in the end does it it really make a difference if you pirate it? It’s not like buying someone’s 20 year old secondhand vinyl is supporting the artist directly in any way (except maybe in some philosophical sense). Honestly at that point, isn’t just getting that track played and heard support enough and more than anyone could hope for?
I tend to be quite hard over on this, as it starts becoming too easy to justify torrenting (“oh, it’s not available to buy digitally” could quite easily turn into “oh it’s not available as ‘insert obscure filetype and birate here’”).
I just feel like there is such a pretense and double standard on copyright in the DJ community. On the one hand there is this absolute that we should never torrent or download a single song under any circumstance, yet none of us would think twice about uploading an hour and a half DJ mix of other people’s music to soundcloud (and offering free download) or downloading a 2 hour set from any number of DJs.
No one seems to have a problem with making and uploading mashups or making an edit or bootleg of a track with minor tweaks like an extended intro or looped section then slapping our name on it next to the artist and uploading it and offering it for free for anyone to download. Yet people freak out at the thought of downloading a track under various circumstances. Why is one form of piracy and copyright infringement ok with everyone yet the other is not even open for discussion with a lot of people?
My particular stance on this is that while I support artists (being one myself), I have to agree with Xonetacular.
While I can be seen at any one of Detroit’s record stores digging, the feeling of finding that (seemingly) one in a million gem, is just too few and far in between. My focus has shifted to collecting (what was until the Internet) the almost impossible to find.
Digging for the sake of digging is not (to me), an effective use of my time anymore..(kids, job, house stuff).
Will buying “Jimmy Castor Bunch’s It’s Just Begun” on eBay give you that feeling… for that matter will Jimmy’s estate get his share of the sale?
This is a thread is a train wreck waiting to happen. As Xonetacular stated, there’s a double standard at play here.
I think there does need to be a legal channel for high quality digital music. I complain cuz im running out of room to store vinyl. There is money to be made there aswell, hence the sucsess of beatport. you can get 90% of the music on there cheaper on Iruinmusic (sorry typo Itunes) but ppl still choose the better option.
@photojojo’s comment it really isnt avaliable. Ive just had to buy all of 2 kings in a cypther’s music as I cannot find it online at all, and relativly speaking they where fairly big. I think there needs to be a legal channel for people to be able to use.
Going off topic slightly there is a big legal battle over selling second hand digital music, as the record companies pushed for it to be defined as a tangable product, just like you can sell ur old cd’s should you be able to sell ur old mp3’s? I think the record companies are destroying themselfs as people can more and more easily self promote. The day the big record companies die will be a great day for music
And since it looks like we’ve got a trend of brand new members coming here to post in this thread it looks like I’ll be swinging the ban hammer without my usual sense of fairness soon enough.
that aint expensive a ronettes album cost me over 100 quid so thats about 140 dollars. there are records far more expensive than that. its the big hits that are real cheap. the most expensive ones are mainly groups that had a few flops then a hit.
back to th title of this thread. I honestly think torrent communities are leading the way in high quality varied music downloads. Do I agree with it no but it doesnt take away from the fact that its true. So sombody needs to come up with a solution or do record companies not care about these other acts and old music. Is it not finically viable to do it.
