legal mp3 downloads
What tells mr copper or whichever busybody comes knockin on my dorr which of my mp3’s are leagle and which are not??
Gav
Don’t you keep your receipts mate? haha crazy eh
Surely the onus is on them to prove that you didn’t buy them. Failing that, a quick email to the online store you got them from should confirm it.
Theoreticly yes, your innocent until proven guilty so i guess that would be the case.
Why would they come to your door.
If its illegal downloads they would prove thru your Service Provider probably.
If its in the Club its a whole different ball game. Weve been over this at NI and its a minefield in the UK.
You can strip the MP3 tags and rename them but i dunno about how that would affect digital watemarks. I get promos that are digitaly watermarked and they scare the hell out of me. Especially when the sticker has your name printed on saying that the CD tracks contain information about me and would be transfered if copied.
There have been some DJs in London who have been made an example of when tracks with their names on turned up on torrent sites. They got booted off ALL their promo lists and will never receive a promo again. Ouch
Thats why i dont file share. To much to lose.
It was a discussion point moree than anything. I’m not saying they will come to my door just an exapmle to try and get my point accross.
So digital water marks hey .. how or where do you see these?
What if the company i bought them off goes bust and are uncontactable?
Its all just discussion. I don’t really use the NI board so havent been over this before and i dont think its been discussed on here. Think its a pretty interesting subject.
G
surely they keep an eye on the actual source, who uploaded it and what IPs connect to it.
Technically they have the burden of proof that you are downloading music illegally. That, and most likely the cops won’t come to your door. You’ll get a summons from the record industry with the details of the lawsuit.
The system is kinda fucked like that, though. They are more concerned with the people providing than downloading, but I think that’s mainly because it’s easier to trace.
Yeah they announced a new ‘3 Strikes And Your Out’ proposal just this week for the UK.
If you get caught downloading music you get sent a letter of warning. Second time you get another letter and a warning from your ISP. Third time you get your internet access taken off you BUT you still have to pay your ISP till the contract ends which is part of the warning in the second letter.
Lets face even though they go afterr the peeps that are downloading millions of tunes they will make an example of the odd person who just downloads a few tracks to make everyone think “IT COULD BE YOU NEXT” hahaha
And it could … mwhah hahaha
Digital Watermarks are placed on promo cds and they have the DJs information contained in each track.
IE: DJ name/Promo company
Promo companies ‘claim’ they search online for leaked music that has been sent out as a promo to DJs before release date. If they find tracks that you have uploaded by looking at the watermark your fucked.
When i get home ill post a pic of the warning you get on a watermarked CD. It certainly makes you think twice when you rip it to use on the laptop.
I am not sure exactly what all there is in there, but tracks bought of off iTunes these days come without DRM, but do have your email addressed embedded. In many European countries you pay fees for all media copy/transport devices. This includes printers, CD-R’s (well only those for audio) and mp3 players. You can also legally share music with friends and family. But given that we are all connected somehow, the file you give to a friend could go around the world, without ever having been on a public website (which would be illegal). However if someone in the limitless “trust chain” does upload it, its your email up there.
How is this data encoded into the file?
what about if you have tracks recorded in different countries are they copywrited in usa?
I’m not sure about the nuts and bolts on how to do it per se, but I know that when radio stations play tunes, the tunes have the information recorded in frequencies higher than people can hear, and that’s how they keep track of what tunes are being played and how much to pay them.
If it’s just in the ID3 tag info that’s just silly.
This make sense if it works how I think it should,
"Our society is specialized in Audio WM. Actually, we have a product that WM audio signals. The WM product is a software program running on a window based PC. The resulant WM signal can be transmitted on the TV or Radio waves. On the reception a DSP based carte will detect the binary information coded on the audio signals along with the exact time of emission. "
So if it’s all binary, you can use one Frequency range as “1” and another as “0” and encode it that way
Not 100%, but pretty sure that it isn’t inside the ID3 tags. #1 because they can be changed, deleted, and remade to say whatever you want. #2 because I’ve went through and looked at the way that certain programs write tags over the entire ID3 specs, and haven’t found anything in any of the available feilds that had any information that could be used to identify a person or computer. Would have to be hidden in the song itself if it was DRM free and still was coded with the purchaser’s personal info.
Looks like I might have to dig deaper
here is a post I found about the itunes “watermarking”:
and another article that points to yet another article, both talking about the nitty gritty details of the itunes approach (which might have changed a bit since then.. you never know):
thanks for the links, learned something good today
if everyone or every household paid a yearly subscription fee of say $100 for all the music you can download - im sure the record companies would rake in a ton more money than they do now, and would be a way more profitable business model in the future (judging by the way sales are dwindling and downloads skyrocketing).
generally record companies rape their artists, so why not rape the labels? if you want to support artists, see them live and buy their merch. at least they are getting the money that way.
I read this idea quite a while agao and I think it sounds like a good idea but can’t see it happening as everyone would winge that they don’t download as much as there neighbour and blah blah blah … A bit like communism in a round about way all record labels would be equal and I’m sure the big labels wouldn’t like that and if they weren’t equal then who would decide who gets a bigger share … Lots of dummys outside of lots of prams.
Yeah lets all move to China.