only a fool would use VDJ!
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lol nice avi dude I love that video.
I agree Virtual DJ is terrible compared to using CDJās (my personal preference) or Serato.
Only a fool would pay $300 for DJ software 
Only a fool is a DJ.
+1
lifetime updatesā¦ tho it would take a lot of major upgrades before traktor cost anything like as much as that these days. the vdj pricing made more sense before traktor dropped itās price.
having said thatā¦ and even tho i use mixxx these daysā¦ i am really curious about vdj8 and will buy a copy if i can justify it.
the F1 costs $300, S4 costs $800, S2 costs $400, Audio 6/10 $400ā¦ by design you need at least two of these controllers to use traktor optimally and you lose HID when you remapā¦ the price difference is easily made up when you consider that you can use any controller in full resolution and can use the whole programā¦ If vdj had traktors effects this would be a very different storyā¦ wait a sec guitar rig vst has traktors 12 and that works in vdj as well as heaps of other vstās 
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As I said in another thread, I have been djing for 10 years since I was 18 and still obsessed, using software for only a couple of years, but had will have had 3 upgrades when the next version hits so have got my return on my investment, after that itās all gravy. If I had to pay for upgrades for 10 years and lost my freedom of choice in hardware it would add up.
Now the only important differences where vdj is worse between the two are the internal eq and the sampler, both are getting fixed for version 8. The gui I donāt consider to be important for now Iām much more interested at what the core program can do and how easily it can do it. VDJ has everything beat in this area, Itās like open source software with a professional dev team.
In the end, to each one his own tools, the soul lies not in the ātechnologyā but in what you can with do it (or something like that Iāve just read from Richie Hawtin). Use whatās best for you I guess.
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funny really how much people go on about traktor and hid when in vdj and mixxx you can map hid devices pretty much the same way you map midi ones. ofc you need the 1.11 beta of mixxx to do that thoughā¦ but i doubt traktor will ever allow custom hid mappings to non NI controllers.
vdj8 looks very promisingā¦ whatever you argue about the price and free upgrades itās still that that will put people off and make them stick to traktor given that itās so cheap. with traktor so cheap now i can only guess that itād take a lot of upgrades before the total price came close to 300usd. less true at itās old price point. vdj needs to realise this and do something to make their pricing more competitive. even if they release a version for maybe 100usd that doesnt have free lifetime upgrades.
edit: meant 1.11 and not 1.12
Iāve spent thousands on software.
Waves V9 Mercury aint cheap, I have all the Softube, Lexicon, SSL, Neve, ā¦ the list is allmost endlessā¦
Good quote, but you can potentially do more in vdj and I am a geek who likes to find itās limitsā¦ when I mix I just play what I think are good tunes with good timing in a good order (minimal effects). Iām not trying to create anything or do ālive remixesā that only satisfy my need to perform, If I was Iād use ableton which is a much more suitable tool.
When I play with mapping I like to come up with crazy ways to use the software and share them with others. I like both aspects of modern djingā¦
i seem to get way too side tracked with the mapping side of things these daysā¦ kind of why itās been nice to get back to basics a bit just mixing with a couple of cheap djtech cdj101ās and the djm101 with mxxx. nothing as nice as using turntables but just nice manual control and concentrating just on the mixing (after i had created the mappings for those controllers ofc 
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I use timecode vinyl, It keeps me on my toes when mixing so my inner adhd side canāt take over my inner reasoning and make me ruin music with too many effects or poorly timed sampling.
But the benifit of having guys like you and me Pete is we geek out so others donāt have to. I will never again have the chance to share the stage with richie hawtin and probably wonāt get another weekly residency as I was a bit of a drug fiend when I was in the scene djing every weekend and donāt really want the temptation, still love the music and djing though.
I just wish there was more info on VDJ8ā¦ 
indeed! geektastic 
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I will never again have the chance to share the stage with richie hawtin and probably wonāt get another weekly residency as I was a bit of a drug fiend when I was in the scene djing every weekend and donāt really want the temptation, still love the music and djing though.[/QUOTE]
again??? niceā¦ back in the day i wasnāt djāing every weekend but i was always out clubbing from friday thru sunday with just a couple of hours sleep before monday morning. definitely consumed way too much but wouldnāt mind some of that temptation again.
me too - i havenāt read anything about it in a while now. i hear some lucky people have beta copies thoā¦ 
Iāll be a beta tester & I havenāt got one yet ā¦ but I suppose that means itās close 
Ahhh ecstasy for dinner, ghb for a midnight snack and ketamine for breakfast! repeat! those were the days 
LOL
Iāve never played with richie hawtin, but the opportunity would never arise againā¦ the biggest names I have shared the stage with are Zany & Techoboy if your into hardstyle.
ah ok - figured u had a copy already, it was u i was refering to youāll have to let us know what itās like when u get your grubby mits on a copy. not that i suspect youāll need an encouragement to let us all know how cool the new features are
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Ahhh ecstasy for dinner, ghb for a midnight snack and ketamine for breakfast! repeat! those were the days LOL[/quote]
interesting choice for breakfast i do miss a cheeky half before going to the pubā¦
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Iāve never played with richie hawtin, but the opportunity would never arise againā¦ the biggest names I have shared the stage with are Zany & Techoboy if your into hardstyle.[/QUOTE]
i never got the chance to play out in clubs, but we had plenty of parties that i played at. those were the daysā¦ funny how life gets in the way sometimes
iām getting all nostalgic nowā¦ anyway back on topic
VDJ SUX!
You actually donāt need any of them maybe an F1 if you want controll of the Remix decks. and in those $300 ia a full license to Traktor 2.5 no LE.
Buy any controller with similar options as say S2 and get VDJ LE you need to fork out around $300 for only the controller the the upgrate with discount $250.
VDJ sucks because you need to know scripts to even have a chance of mapping slightly the way you want it to.
VDJ is ugly as hell unless you use custom skins or you (Again have to know the Skining language) make your own. and just one line done wrong can cause VDJ crash.
VDJ FX suck bit time you need to download user made once to even get close to usefull FX. And some that have only been tested on a hand full of computers are also the reason for some crashes in VDJ.
VDJ on itās own is stable as stable gets. But to make it usefull youāll need 3 party plugins witch all can lead to blackouts when you mostly need it to be stable.
So yes only a fool would use VDJ for their hearth of their lifesuporting income.