Push + Maschine 2.0 + APC40

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Push + Maschine 2.0 + APC40

Hey fellow DJTT goers.

I am currently looking for a way to sue my 20% off code and have been thinking about upgrading my studio controllers. Some basic information about me is that I make Techno, Minimal, House, Electro House, etc and I do all of it in Ableton.

I like the Push because it is much more logically laid out for someone who doesn’t play piano and it has step sequence and other such things.

I love the Maschine for drumming and also the Maschine software. I have seen some lovely things accomplished and it is another way to get more live expression and swing. I also love the bigger pads.

Lastly, I like the APC40 (I wouldn’t purchase this from DJTT) for the channel faders and the amazing Macro banks that the Push lacks. This + Push also give me ability to control and instrument on the Push and launch clips with the APC40. I can also remap this to damn near any software I want.

These are my thoughts. Does anyone here have any further ideas?

Cheers.

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If you want to produce, go with the Maschine or Push.

If you want to make melodies and stuff, go Push. If you want to drum stuff out go Maschine.

I think both kinda make the APC40 obsolete.

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Having all 16 Encoders + channel faders available at the same time without switching between banks or layers is something I don’t think I could live without.

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Exactly right mate? That’s huge for me, but I LOVE the layouts for instrument play on the Push.

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I would recommend going for Maschine - the Live script for Maschine offers most of the Push functionality. The pads are just better and I prefer slicing in Maschine.

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I have heard this before. The one thing lost that REALLY appeals to me though is the note entry style of Push

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With the coloured scales? Maschine has that going on.

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What?! Maschine has it integrated so that no matter what button you hit you’re still in key?

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Not with the scale system that Push has.

Not that I know of.

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Yes, it’s Ableton script does. It’s only a matter of time till they port it to the plugin.

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Hm. Regardless. I’d still have 64 available notes than 16. The Push also has a 32 step sequencer.

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Maschine can step sequence in as many steps as you’d like - it just switches between pages of sixteen steps.

Yes, the Live script for Maschine has had coloured scales for a while.

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That. I want all 32 right there at once.

So I think my set up is seeming pretty sound. I like Push for a lot of reasons and Maschine appears to be well loved and honestly I’ll be using APC40 for mixing and clip launch and it’s great at that so I feel I have everything covered.

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Sure it has a step sequencer, inside of the maschine vst. not exactly the same thing as what the push does…

Plus I much prefer the pushes style of scales on pads. To each their own

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My thoughts exactly.

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I currently have both and I can honestly say that I couldn’t live without either. However if you really have to pick one go with Maschine. As stated earlier you get a lot of functionality from NI’s Ableton Template, and I do think it’s only a matter of time before NI adds in things like a scale mode for Maschine.

Down the road though i’d highly recommend picking up Push. Using the two together is bad ass, Maschine definitely has some workflow things nailed that Push doesn’t and vice versa. Don’t get into the black and white mindset, it’s entirely possible to own botha and not burn in hell for doing so haha.

Also worth noting is that Push is hard to come by right now (bad foresight on Ableton’s part) so a Maschine MK2 will be readily available anywhere you go.

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I’ll for sure order both then! I am fine with waiting, as I said I am currently in the midst of upgrading my studio. My current controller will be more than sufficient till I can get a Push in.

EDIT: My current controller is a “Novation Impulse 49”. A great piece, but I don’t know how to play piano and only has 8 pads.

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With my Push, Maschine and Avid Artist Controllers, I almost literally have a mouse free work environment. Not 100 percent but it sure is better than what I was doing years ago

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What is an Avid Artist Controller? I haven’t heard of those.

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haven’t used the Push, and I really didn’t care for Ableton either (30 day trial)

Maschine on the other hand, I swear by. Maschine plus a 25 or 49 key controller is phenomenal. the pads are great, and the sampling, scene by scene arrangement.

Those two plus a DAW like Logic, Cubase or Pro-Tools and you’ve got yourself a pretty nice little setup.