The Bridge announced
Sounds pretty interesting. And it’s free for existing Serato users!
Hmmm…open XML, I like the idea of that. Either way, cool stuff, but I would have much prefered to see a plugin which imports a DVS interface into Ableton itself, not just use it to edit mix tapes.
mmauve you are a lil wrong on this
this is ableton inside serato!!!
«Put the Ableton Live Session View “inside” Serato: Here’s where things get in interesting. Rather than put Serato inside Live, we’re getting Live inside Serato – after a fashion. Ableton Live runs in the background. Integrated into the Serato interface (as seen at the screenshot at top) are all your Session View clips from your Live Set. Serato’s control – via audio input from vinyl or CDJs, or an ITCH control surface – manipulates the entire transport of the Live set.»
awesome!!! exactly what I was expecting
Seems pointless to me, so youve got your clips in serato, which you can play in traditional style. why not just put the audio files from the clips into your library and load them from there? plus you need to run both programs, cpu heavy? it doesnt make sense to me, does anyone have any views on it?
well for one you loose multi monitor capabilities, but you do gain more efficient space use on a single monitor when you do want to combine the two.
but there must be more in there than just making ableton an integrated glorified sample launcher to make this all worthwhile.
the export into live certainly seems cool. make an awesome live performance? export it into ableton for some more production love and get $$$.
No…I’m not wrong actually, because what you just quoted is nothing like what I’m talking about.
I’m fully aware of what they mean, you basically turn Ableton into a background process for it to provide the arrangement and clip information via an XML script which Serato loads into it’s interface according to what’s being provided by the session arrangement.
Basically this is just one program piggy backing off another, using XML scripting to close the gap, as opposed to an embedded solution where the two are integrated into one clean interface. If you understand XML on any level, what “The Bridge” is providing really isn’t that complex.
At the end of the day it’s all about personal preference.
Its not really a great live performance if youve gotta edit it is it? the only good thing i can see from this is maybe the added effect?if it even lets you?
+1
This is pretty much what Im saying. What does “The Bridge” offer me that Traktor synced into Ableton via MIDI clock doesn’t already?. Also, do things such as the APC20 or APC40 controllers work with the interface Ableton has put into Serato?.
Unless drastic changes have been made to Scratch/Itch, Traktor still seems to have the upper hand on customization and MIDI controller support.
By all means, maybe I’m missing a bigger picture here, but from what I gather, “The Bridge” is a mixtape editor, and a basic XML relay between the two programs.
Again, not shit talking the idea Ableton and Serato are putting out, just legitimately questioning what it brings to the table aside from not having to bounce between programs as much?.
Hmmmm, well, you can launch clips from inside Serato, you can use Ableton effects from inside Serato, you can use instruments from inside Serato.
So just calling it a mixtape-editor is a bit…
When you put Serato in Ableton you get the mixtape-editor, but it’s the “other side of the bridge” that’s interesting…
if you could use max for live with it then maybe it will be interesting, but it isnt doing anything new. but to be fair it is free if you own both programs so you cant really complain. the max for live thing my be good, you could build some freaky effects to mess with the audio or maybe add parts to a loop with a custom built synth. but you could still do all of that with traktor linked with ableton.
What a let down to be honest i was expecting a major breakthrough here this is nothing more than serato + ableton = serato + ableton if you get me, nothing new, nothing COOL, nothing intresting and nothing that lets me be more creative
. How can this be the product of a years work?? I actualy taught i mite be regratting my decesion to go traktor over serato… very disapointing… unless im missing sumthing?
I too question what exactly this is really bringing to the table. I think part of the problem is that it’s just not what people here are looking for. We want the unlimited FX and synths of the DAW, but just controlled with traditional DJ methods. The holy grail of DJing per say. I don’t feel that these new features do this.
Damn, and they don’t even give the publishing date! I think I’ll be happy with it after I get to play with it. I wish they would add support to OTUS RAW as a controller. That would be pretty sweet.
Yeah, I agree it’s cool, I just think they could have pushed the envelope a bit with the amount of potential this idea had, that’s all. I’m not saying they flopped hardcore, but I think the editor best sums up my concerns at the end of his article:
And while I agree, its nice that “The Bridge” is bringing more options to the table for stuff like this, I think it would have benefited more as a DVS plug-in that displays the same information Serato does in the Clip Information portion of Ableton Live. This cuts down on resources needed, makes it easier to keep tabs on work flow, and alleviates any dependencies between two separate programs all while providing the same functionality.
I’m having trouble understanding what you mean by this. Could you explain?
^think that poster wants the collab to use ableton like a fancy fx unit while keeping the traditional dj interface.
this is just the first announcement, i wouldn’t sell this short if works as advertised and they have figured out how to sync the two considering ableton doesn’t really sync all that well to midi clock coming in.
i’m actually kinda surprised ableton agreed to let this be free
I think they are looking for good press after the issues with Live8
i’m going to help a buddy of mine set this up when it comes out, he’s got a apc40 too, i can’t wait.
Nice, I look forward to hearing what you have to say about it, Im curious to see if the APC40 works with Serato’s clip launching interface
I’m thinking along the same lines as mmauve is. Some sort of DVS that you can add into your daw as a generator just like any synth. You can add a DVS track into your DAW, and assign a turntable to control it. It would provide all the same stuff you get in Serato including visualizations, EQ controls, and the ability to load an MP3 into it. Plus you then have the ability to chain it into any VST effects you want. It all runs in one program to streamline performance.
Seems like we already have some solutions for this sort of thing. It would have just been really nice if we got it from Serato and Abelton.
This will make Traktor look like a toy in time.
i want to see how this works with itch. will i be able to use ableton as a fancy fx unit?