Vci-100Se VS NS7
http://techtools.myshopify.com/products/vci-100se
What would recommend Vci-100SE with traktor pro or NS7 with NSFX i am on a mac book pro that’s around a year old (why would you recommend it) im going to use it more for house and trance type music over rap/hiphop
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They’re completely different in my opinion. It’s sort of hard to compare the two since their emphasis in respects to DJing is rather opposite.
One is meant as a utilitarian tool which can be customized to the users needs, the other is aimed at emulating the feel of a genuine DJ rig, platter rotation and all. Price point, theres also a huge difference, as is with portability.
I guess if I had to draw a line between the two, the VCI-100SE wins simply because I wouldn’t be pigeon holed into one program. The NS7 as far as I know can only be used with Serato Itch.
The NS7 primarily caters towards Scratch DJs as opposed to EDM DJs. That’s not to say it’s a bad controller, it just might not be what you want. I think the best bet would be to go to a local store and see if they have both set up for demo-ing. Try them both out and see which one you think would fit you better.
i got the ns7 when i first started djing (with a school grant lol) and i kinda regret it. i’m not a scratch dj. the vci is probably better for edm.
i’m looking to trade or sell my ns7 for a vci 100 se
unless ableton and serato do something absolutely amazing
For that purpose, I would keep it until mid January 2010, when NAMM rolls around and they announce what they will do. My hunch is that Itch 2.0 will in fact be a plugin for Ableton rather than a standalone program. Ideally, You would just create a new channel for each deck within Ableton, and the clip launching section would be appended to stuff like effects. Who knows.
If that happens, I’ll buy that NS7 from you 
i have the feeling Serableton will be nothing compared to what can already be done with M4L once the dj community really gets rolling with it.
The only advantage of Serableton will be the ability to use Seratos time code detection algorythms, which in this growing age of controllers is going to be outdated in not that long a period of time.
Back to the original topic though - the Ns7 and the VCI-100 are largely different controllers, and while the VCI-100 is alot smaller it waaaaay better at doing effect and other cool stuff than the NS7 which still is quite a traditional approach to mixing and not really stepping very far outside the box.
all right right now i like the vci-100 more then the ns7 but the xone dx came up what do you guys think about the xone dx the ns7 is out of the picture now
The DX looks pretty good. Totally feature packed but remember the jogs are not like the VCI jog wheels. No wicky-wacky on those rubber lovers.
Also despite the DX being packed with Itch , if your soft of choice is Traktor its all good. The DX works as well if not better with Traktor.
Its also got an in built soundcard.
what would you recommend i wana mix more then i want to scratch
Well bear in mind, any impressions of the DX are purely from an analytical stand point being as its not released yet, for more information I recommend looking up the Xone DX video on YouTube. The price point is also about equal to the NS7, about $1299 when it’s released.
The big thing which can be said for certain however is what Karlos said, the jog wheels arent as nice as the VCI-100SE, the pressure sensitivity feature (Im almost certain) was removed in favor of a four way click jog wheel as featured on the 1D, 2D, 3D, and 4D. Cool for additional MIDI mapping, bad for overall emulation control. If Im wrong in this, by all means, someone correct me.
My best advice is don’t really sacrifice too much scratch capability even though you will be doing traditional style club mixing. Somewhat close vinyl control is really nice for general fluidity and pin point track navigation. This is purely on my past experiences with other controllers though 
Mine arent.
When i say the DX works amazingly well with Traktor its because i “know” it does.
Just a clarification… carry on.
Ahh right, you’re in England, doesn’t Allen & Heath release demo products way in advance over there?. Christ Im missing out 
well, just sold my ns7 for $950. i’m gonna buy an arcade edition and traktor pro. i really hated itch. sorry dont mean to slam it.
What didn’t you like about Itch specifically?
No mate, theres another reason but to be honest it doesnt matter its just the point that i wanted to make. I think many people assume that the DX is just for Itch like the NS7 and it really isnt.
I imagine that many people who get the DX will try Itch and then try Traktor Demo and buy Traktor . Of course im biased towards Traktor and have a vested interest but from what ive seen the new Itch will be good but not be a match for Traktor.
lack of fx, 2 decks (on the ns7), no midi mapping, didnt really like the soundcard (a slight hiss, maybe it was just me), its friggin huge! (at first i really liked the form factor, but after carrying it out, pshhh!), i was jealous of traktor which probably didnt help
the fx controllers that have come out arent nearly as good as the built in fx in traktor
in retrospect, i made a poor purchase. i had researched every aspect of dj gear before i invested but i had my sights set on being a scratch/turntablist guy.
the serato and ableton team up seemed like it would solve some of my problems, but i figured that traktor has those problems out of the way without ableton. i’d much rather route traktor into ableton if i really want to use it as a massive sample/fx machine.
dj techtools offers great support that serato just doesnt. soz.
ummmmmmmmmmmm, i also hated SSL guys calling my ns7 a toy while in public lol. ssl guys are really stubborn/pig headed. =DDDD not all, just some =DDDD
SERIOUSLY ???
Are those guys still pissing in their shoes about everything other than SSL?
I thought those guys had stopped crying.
And hating about a product made by their own chosen software company, it beggars belief.
My Serato friends are all cool with controllerists but i guess theres still some dinosaurs out there.
No, they’re pretty full of themselves. I’d venture a guess that 90% of the SSL enthusiasts I’ve bumped into are hardcore vinyl purists who think that MIDI is the musical apocalypse that will engulf mankind.
Fun story: a vinyl shop owner who throws gigs refused to adhere to a booking he made with me because he realized I used CD’s. Rather or not he had CD decks available at my disposal is of little excuse (I owned CDJ-1000 MK3 which I could have brought if he needed me to), but he basically went on this rant that digital is destroying DJ culture, and how I’m a problem lol. He also states that people who use a laptop as a part of their performance are “as interesting as watching a dog take a shit” lol. Ironic too, guess what SSL requires to function?, yeah, a laptop.
Quite frankly, he was just sore that his record shop got it’s ass handed to him by Beatport. Never saw the guy again lol.
Dude I envy you, I have yet to come across an SSL user that embraces any form of forward thinking technology lol.