I also think it will be an upgrade to pro 2 that will actually get people thinking “I NEED AN S4” It wont be until they get those sample banks etc that the s4 will start to make sense to them.
I’m not talking dropping the price by the full cost of a pro licence. It just seems a waste only having the option of the full lot when a lot of people wont actually need it and they’ll just get blasted onto ebay or being sold in forums. Wouldn’t NI be better selling them wasted ones at full price to some other punter, and probably making a bigger mark up than they are by selling that license bundled with the s4?
I’m not saying i understand business here and there is probably something i know nothing about that is making me think how others don’t seem to be. At present the package is 899 euros for everything, traktor pro 2 license is 199 euros.
Say they did a unit alone for 799 euros, my license that’s just going to get loaded on to ebay could be sold by NI at full price making them more money?
Where did i go wrong? what did i forget?
Blow me out the water … i think i need educating hahaha
Your first claim about people realizing the S4 would be perfect for them after using the Tpro 2 is dead on. You are correct. I guess this is why they have demos but for people like myself who need to take time to dive in to new techniques I guess it would require me to purchase it first.
What your saying does make sense, but I think what NI (and ALL other software companies) tend to keep in mind is the fact that people no longer hesitate with torrenting software. People don’t give a shit that some poor guy put in hours of his life to create software that you want to use for free because you’re too stingy to spend $150 on something you will use to make money and use for a long time. It drives me insane because I know if anyone did that to us (as in EVERYONE ALIVE) for time we invested in creating something and selling something we would all be furious and have our guns in the air.
I garantee you the price of the S4 will come down. In standard NI fashion it will be them just clearing thier inventory in anticipation of their next new and improved controller. So when you see the big price drop run out and buy it. Then proceed to bitch about how NI gave you the long hard one when you see the beautiful new Kontrol S Eleventy.
As you can purchase Maschine controller without the software (449$ vs 669$ with the software) I guess one day some will also be able to purchase the S4 controller ONLINE, so NI have proof the user already own a legal copy of the software. I don’t think they will take out the Whole software price though..
If you are short on cash and really want a KS4 check out zzounds.com where I purchased mine. They will spread out the cost between 4 credit card transactions basically only charging you 222$ or so for 4 months. Highly recommend them, they are great.
EDIT: same goes for Maschine. Get them both at once and spread the charges across 4 months (and no, I don’t work for them).
Wow, that’s really expensive just for a basic “dumb” midi controller. I assumed most of the cost was for the software and the controller was only worth a couple hundred. I guess not?
You could call it between the Audio 4 and 6. It has 4 direct inputs and a set of rca outputs and 1/4" outputs. It also takes and sends midi and accepts timecode, so around an audio 4 with a couple of bonuses and full timecode control.
i aint read every comment in this tread as my connection is acting up,
but i have to agree with MisterMoleyMole,
a slightly cheaper stand alone S4 would be sweet and would make a lot of sense considering, they could be loosing a lot of hardware sales due to people already owning TP2,
100 smackers less without the software and even i would buy one
and i already have an S4
i dont kno if this has been said in the tread yet but i dont have time to read the hole thing. what if someone wants scratch pro two cause they want to use timecode with there s4 as a mixer sort of thing
Yes, this is what tends to happen when newer software and hardware is released. The price always goes down. At that point in time though, I doubt you will want an S4 when there’s a newer shinier toy waiting for you on the other side.
