XONE:43C, sending it back

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XONE:43C, sending it back

What an awesome mixer to play with for a couple of days. Worked great standalone and with serato. A few things I don’t care about and one that is just a no go.

1: I found the gains to have too much headroom. I know its weird to say that, but on most tracks I had to run the gain -6 to -9db. This didn’t give much room for fine adjustment on the line levels.

2: The crossfader is horrible, curves are horrible and cut has a hug gap. At the $1000 they should have included the innofader than included what the stock fader… meh!!

3: Not a huge fan of faded VU’s. American DJ tried this way over 10 years ago, didn’t go over too well. Odd, the mixer has an old Q series feel to it.

4: Last but not least…every damn channel bleeds into the main output with the faders all the way down. This falls short of what a new mixer should do.

Sucks, its a nice mixer. I could have lived with everything else but the last one.

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Bummer, I was really interested in this mixer.

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Did you contact A&H about the problem? I’d love to know whether the channel bleed is endemic or an isolated problem with your unit.

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bad

i have this problem too. i send mix to service and they say: all is ok… this is ok ? no. i solved low phono input… i play with gain to -6dB :smiley: realy poorly mixing… this isnt mix to play from vinyl…

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I just got this mixer & hated all those things about it!!! the only thing i was able to fix was the crossfader after upgrading to an innofader

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Hearing complaints like this all over the place… guess A&H is a brand to avoid.

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Man this new series they introduced seems to be complete shit

I had a Xone 22 and tried out the Xone 23 and it was absolute trash… New vu fader style was horrid and the shortening of the volume faders was also bullshit.

The design sucked, and it was incredibly cramped compared to the 22

I kinda feel your pain even though yours is bigger, but I’d honestly suggest getting a 42 instead. their older mixers are pure luxury

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I wouldn’t stay away, they’re still better than most mixers out there… I’m still keeping my Xone 43C, this is my fifth A&H & I don’t regret it at all, every mixer I’ve owned has had SOME annoyances, even my beloved Xone 92 & Xone DB4. You pick your battles

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Do the channels still bleed, or was this resolved by A&H?

I have two older A&H mixers that I use daily, and whilst they might have their quirks that I have become accustomed to, channel bleed is absolutely unforgivable …

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my channel bleed is very very low, I can only hear it when I turn the gains & the master all the way up, even then it’s very faint (doesn’t even show on the meter). I only did that for testing purposes. I don’t know about the other person who has this, but for me it’s not worth trying to fix. If it’s that bad I’m sure A&H would swap it out, still a solid mixer & I’m happy with it

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Ive come to learn that if it looks plastic, no matter how amazing the manufacturer, it will feel like and act like plastic.

Allen and Heath needs to stick to what they know best, phenomenal sounding analog mixers.

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it’s definitely not plastic, it’s pretty solid steel. definitely feels great. Also, this IS an analog mixer. Still very very good.

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I dont know man. Anything over the 600 dollar range shouldnt have signal bleed. That is a pretty basic mixing necessity.

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Nah dude, A&H is absolutely huge for a good reason outside of the US. Their analog mixers are some of the best and widely used in techno/house.

This is an entry level model, their good stuff is pricey.

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I only get signal bleed if the gains are turned all the way up, the master is also turned all the way up, and even then it’s barely audible. definitely never the way I would actually mix & even then you can barely hear it. Once there’s actual signal you don’t hear it

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to me this feels like you dont have your gain structure setup right in your rig.

Ive got an analog mixer (ECler), and Ive setup my gain structure so that a track peaking into the orange on traktor hits my mixer output at 0db.

A brand new brickwalled track can generally be set at 0 for gain in the software, and it will hit my mixer at 0db.

The only thing different is if you are using vinyl. Some records are just quieter than others.

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No I have the same thing, in comparison to my other mixers, I definitely have to turn the gains a lot lower. I’ve tested on Serato, Traktor, CDs, and real vinyl. They all run a lot hotter than normal. If I’m using software, I’ll turn it down in software, but I can definitely vouch for what he’s saying

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Too bad. Really liked the features on this one but the non-scratch faders already had me stirring away.

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i added an innofader and it’s really good now

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I’ve never had signal bleed with faders at 0 on either my Xone:62 or Xone:92…I have no experience with the 42 or 43, but I have a hard time accepting that this is an endemic defect with the 40 line of mixers.