**Logic Pro Available For $199.00**

Performance & Techniques Music Production
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Logic Pro Available For $199.00

Hey guys, not sure if you guys are aware, if so just ignore or if its a repost mods please delete.

So… Apple have announced that they will discontinue the sale and making of Logic Pro in the box set, and have made it available for download in the App store for only $199.00.. :eek: :stuck_out_tongue:

Here’s the link:

So what do you think? Is it a good deal?

I think it is, its less than half of the old price, and it looks to me as if its the same thing as the box set. Score! :slight_smile:

Well I know that I’ll be buying it, and it seems like a good alternative for anyone looking to start production at an affordable price. No more spending $500-600 on Ableton etc…

So what do you think? Cheers. :slight_smile:

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Interesting there’s no logic express in te app store.

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Yeah as far as I know they discontinued Logic Express, and will only offer Logic Pro and Main Stage as downloads from the App store, no more box sets.

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Looks like the app version doesn’t come with the 60GB sound library.

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So it’s the torrent? :slight_smile:

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19GB of in-app downloadable content.

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So its not the same as the box version, just made as a download instead of coming as CD’s?

Well that still sounds good to me..

Good deal or not?

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For $200, yes. Absolutely. It was still a decent bargain at $500 compared to Ableton Studio and Pro Tools.

It probably has fewer EXS24 instruments…maybe. But Apple Loops are overrated (and they were the majority of that library). And you can buy them separately anyway.

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Yeah cos I’ve been playing around with Ableton Live trying to see if I like it, before forking out $500 to buy it.

At this price though IMO it would make more sense to get Logic if it hasn’t been scaled down to much. I was reading the features on the App store and comparing it to the box version, and it doesn’t seem that scaled down.

It might be missing a few things compared to the box version, but surely that wouldn’t hinder ones performance or productive capabilities?

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I say go for it. I have the boxed version and I wouldn’t hesitate to have gotten the app version.

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It’s the same, it just doesn’t come with soundtrack pro, wave burner, or compressor. The content is the same, just compressed for download.

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The app itself won’t be scaled down. Even Logic Express was basically the same. It was missing some of the more hardcore plugins (Space Designer and Delay Designer, which are apple’s convolution reverb and delay) plus Mainstage, some of their audio converters and I think one of their dithering algorithms…and a few random plugins.

The biggest difference between Logic Express and Pro is that Pro can run on Avid HD and HD Accel hardware, so it can use TDM plugins and do zero-latency monitoring if you have the hardware to support it…which very few individuals ever do and even fewer have a real need for. Express couldn’t.

Ableton suite is $524 for a download version, and that’s the version comparable to Logic Pro. The biggest differences are in the workflows. Logic doesn’t have anything like Live’s session view, so if that’s important to you, Live is really the only option. For production, I think that matters a lot less than if you also want to do Live PA or DJing with it. If it were me, I’d consider buying both to use Live for performance and something else for production…but I’m weird and think that things take forever in Live.

Logic can also use better control surfaces than Live, and its automation makes more sense to me. YMMV.

One thing to consider is that Logic’s included instruments sound very good, but their UIs are completely unintelligible. I still don’t know how to use Ultrabeat or really any of its synths except for the 303 clone and EXS24…and even that’s weird. Some of them, I can’t even really look at and describe the signal routing…and while I’m not a great producer, that is saying something.

Live’s instruments look really boring, but their UIs are really straightforward.

If you’re going to be using 3rd party synths and drum machines, the it really doesn’t matter all that much.

FWIW, I think Pro Tools has the best bundled instruments. A few places are still selling Pro Tools 9 for like $500 and change. If your computer can run it, I’d recommend giving that serious consideration, but with it costing over twice as much as Logic and with Avid’s BS (it doesn’t run on every system and reacts very badly to OS updates) it’s probably not worth it unless you’re actually working with a studio or really prefer it. I do, but my laptop won’t run it. When/if I can afford to keep 2 computers, I’ll buy the other one using Avid’s certified systems list as a guide.

Considering price…I think Pro Tools wins hands down over Ableton if your computer can run it, if you’re okay with the 96-track limit, and if you’re okay staying an OS revision or two behind.

With Logic Pro costing $200…that’s a really cheap competitor.

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I bought it the other night, good stuff been watching a lot of videos on it.
let me know if you buy it and if you’d recommend any specific keyboard for logic.
thanks

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So as a Dj wanting to produce quality professional EDM music, will not having these things possibly affect ones performance or needs? Will this new Logic work/be as good as the box version?

Thanks for that really in depth post. I really think you are one of the most informative, knowledgable, straight forward posters here. You cut the crap and tell it as it is, thanks for that.

I was gearing towards Ableton until I saw this, I even had the 30 day demo trying to learn as much as possible, until I saw this. I don’t have huge amounts of cash, and my DJ’ing is funding my R.G.A.S. so seeing that I can get Logic for this price does make me think twice about spending so much for Ableton when I can get this, and do pretty much the same thing.

I’m just hoping that with this big discount I’m not going to be missing out on something big that was in the box version. I hope that they keep all the things that made it awesome for EDM production in the new Logic download and didn’t cut out anything important.

Cool man, I’ll let you know!

I’m not to sure about keyboards for Logic. I was also looking into that at one stage, I think I have a thread on something like that, I’ll look it up and post it for you. :slight_smile:

Edit: Here’s my old thread on keyboards etc.

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thanks man, i went with the m-audio oxygen 25 for $99 to start off with.
i’d like to hear how you like logic and what tricks yu find useful. i’ll post as well.

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Wow that is a deal and a half. I’m going to really have to consider picking this up soon.

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Learn about window groups.

Buy a control surface if/when you can afford it, though I have yet to follow that advice on my own.

Learn about the Environment when you can.

Caps lock turns on the on-screen keyboard, which makes most of the portable keyboards kind of pointless.

Get used to the audio routing as quickly as you can…

Learn how to re-map keyboard shortcuts.

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If any of you guys are students: try the apple education store and see if you can get an even better deal. I managed to get a full box Logic Pro with all the goodies for $200. The great plus when you get the box is that you get the bigass Logic book. Very useful.

definitely this + learn the command keys, increases your workflow tenfold.

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Was watching a bunch of videos last night and have to say Logic seems to make more sense to me than Ableton. I haven’t bought it yet, but I think it will happen.

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Just remember, with the Educational discount, you will be getting an educational license for Logic, which is not upgradeable. If Logic 10 comes out, you won’t be able to upgrade to it.